On Tuesday, April 30, 2002, at 02:09 PM, Rafael de Jaime Juli=E1 wrote:
>> Awesome, An installer needs to be written, I used the OS X Interface=20=
>> Builder to make a quick demo nd it was soooo easy. I had a wizard=20
>> type interface in about 15minutes. Would you like to start on an=20
>> installer? You can do it however you think is best (keep in mind =
>> is a user type system, so it should be straightforward), the only=20
>> constraint is that it needs to run in 640x480 at 4bpp.
> OK, I can help you out with that. Maybe I will be a little bit slow=20
> (sorry, I'm neither a fast coder nor a *step expert) but I'll do it. I=20=
> only need a working GNUStep installation (I haven't been able to get=20=
> one, yes, it's my hate story with linux). I guess I could start =
> at it in mac os x (i know it's not the same, but porting shouldn't be=20=
> hard, would it?) until I get it.
Yes, building GNUstep can be a little difficult. Here is a build guide=20=
which should help http://www.made-it.com/GNUstep/Build/
As far as using OS X, there is a utility to convert the nibs. I don't=20=
know good it works though. You can get it here=20
It's called nib2gmodel
>> I agree, I haven;t found anything quite catchy though. I don't want=20=
>> to just bladly the gnustep communicty by calling it GNUstep OS or=20
>> something like that. StepForward sounds pretty good.
> It was just a wild try. I will try some more and send you a couple of=20=
> logos (we should NOT use GS's logo, for it's not the same thing). =
> I've been thinking, we should start working in a System Preferences=20
> app. That's a hard one. Not because of the app itself, but because of=20=
> Linux's funny standards: well, it could be .xinitrc, but it could also=20=
> be .Xsession and be in a different place).
Already being worked on, you can check it out at
It's modular via Bundles, so extending it should be quite easy.
>> Right now I;ve almost got the code base (I do mean Base!) of the=20
>> installer done. with just a ./Build-SGSTEP.sh call an entirely new=20=
>> linux system is built from the base up and put into a bootable cd-rom=20=
>> image (.iso file). Upgrading this to something like a new kernel,=20
>> gcc, or glib, is *very* easy, basically just change a symlink and=20
>> rerun ./Build-SGSTEP.sh
> Just didn't got that part... Sorry, but english is not my mother =
> (even though I speak it fairly well) so I would beg you to be a little=20=
> more clear about that last part.
Basically i'm releasing the source to everything, even the code to make=20=
the distro cd's. It is designed to be very easy to upgrade. It even=20
allows for a big changes (like a move to HURD, or a port to SPARC) w/o a=20=
whole lot of fuss.
> One last thing: I think we should recruit more developers. There's a=20=
> lot of work to do, and we *need* to bundle a fair amount of=20
> applications with v1.0. Many may be straight ports from MacOSX=20
> open-source software, other should be clones. A quick list:
> 1) Console.app
> 2) Preview.app
> 3) Terminal.app
> 4) System Preferences.app
> 5) Calculator, clock, and such...
Many of these thing are already being worked on! check out
> Also, getting someone to start porting Chimera would be soo-o-o=20
> nice.... We would have a full-featured native web browser. You see,=20
> lots of work to do. We should get more help. If you're ok, i can look=20=
> for people around. I bet some people will be wanting to do it.
Yes, that would very, very nice indeed. Also, OpenOffice is being=20
ported to OS X, (slowly). This would also be a "killer app"
> I'm downloading your 'Live SGS' CD.
Ok, that CD is pretty old though. it was also "Hand-crafted" and kind=20=
of rough around the edges, don't be surprised if it doesn't work too=20