I'm glad you guys like Wibbit and Exhibit... Of course, if you do more
than just mapping, then there might be a bigger difference between
Wibbit and Semantic Layers. See the examples at
http://simile.mit.edu/exhibit/ for other kinds of visualization that
Exhibit supports. Not all of Exhibit's capabilities are in Wibbit yet,
but given more resources, we certainly would like to support all of them.
I understand that Google Maps being proprietary is a concern for some.
I'd like to point out that it's not hard to connect Exhibit to
OpenLayers instead. For Google Maps, this was all the JS code needed:
and much of that can be copied over to support OpenLayers. We have
experimented with connecting to VirtualEarth, and that went relatively
well except that VirtualEarth isn't as expressive as Google Maps. For
example, it's hard to control the placement of a marker relative to
where the marker points to. Such limitations are of the mapping service
itself and have little to do with Exhibit. If OpenLayers is as flexible
as Google Maps, then it shouldn't be hard at all to use OpenLayers.
Yaron Koren wrote:
> Sorry, I should have mentioned Semantic Layers in my last email, as I
> realized soon after I sent it. It already supports most of the
> functionality that Wibbit does, though it's based on a different
> technology (OpenLayers instead of Google Maps, though Google Maps can
> be a data source for the mapping) and has an entirely different code
> Also, unlike Semantic Google Maps, it doesn't have a hook into
> Semantic Forms, so it can't be used for map-based input of data (yet?
> :) ). But it does have a number of excellent capabilities, among them
> the ability to map points other than geographical locations on planet
> On 10/12/07, *Matthew Williamson* <matthewdw@...
> <mailto:matthewdw@...>> wrote:
> While it looks like Wibbit may have some additional features that
> I'll have to research, I thought I'd point out that the map-based
> displays it creates are exactly what Semantic Layers was designed
> to do...though perhaps I haven't done a terrific job of making
> that obvious. So I've added/changed the demo on the front page of
> http://s89238293.onlinehome.us/w/ a bit--it now makes use of the
> predefined layers capability and per-marker marker images. There's
> lots of other interesting features tucked in there as well.
> BTW, I'm not done with this extension, but the next features I
> plan to add (pluggable search modules, KML export) plus the move
> to SMW 1.0 are a bit daunting, so I've been putting them off while
> I work on another project temporarily...but those things are
> coming, so stay tuned.
> On 10/11/07, *Yaron Koren* < yaron57@...
> <mailto:yaron57@...>> wrote:
> This is a really neat application; I had heard about Exhibit
> before but had never seen it in action. It's nice to see that
> the Simile people have done for space what their Timeline app
> did for time. :) Now, if they ever make an application that
> takes data points with both a place and a time, and creates
> some sort of animation showing the points on a map moving over
> time, we could all pretty much just retire and never have to
> work again.
> All that said, the reliance on Google Maps makes this, I
> think, unusable directly for either Semantic MediaWiki or
> Semantic Forms. Google Maps, though free of charge, is a
> proprietary application, which causes some problems. Google
> Maps' license currently lets you use it for free only if every
> page that uses it is publicly available, so private wikis
> (like those for a corporation) could only use an extension
> that used Google Maps if they paid a licensing fee. Moreover,
> Google reserves the right to change the licensing structure at
> any time, which means that they could start charging everyone
> for it if they wanted to (though that currently seems unlikely).
> The obvious place to look to add support for Exhibit instead
> is Robert Buzink's "Semantic Google Maps" extension:
> It actually plugs in to both SMW and SF, which means that it
> can be used for both displaying geographic data spread out
> over many pages, and inputting that data. It's not yet
> perfect, but it's close to fully working. And it makes sense
> that Exhibit's additional features, like being able to
> customize the "marker" for each data point, could most easily
> be added there.
> Robert, any thoughts?
> On 10/11/07, *Markus Krötzsch * <mak@...
> <mailto:mak@...> > wrote:
> On Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2007, Uschold, Michael F wrote:
> > It is great to have Exhibit in the media wiki platform.
> > Even better would be to have it integrate nicely with the
> semantic media
> > wiki and semantic forms extensions.
> > Does anyone know of plans for this to happen?
> I don't, but I would also welcome this. On the other hand,
> if MW-integration
> is already there, this might be not so difficult to do. I
> certainly would
> like to get Wibbit's bibtex export for my SMW-generated
> publication list !
> Best regards,
>  http://korrekt.org/index.php/Publications
> > Best wishes,
> > Michael
> > http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Wibbit
> > "Wibbit is what we playfully call our Mediawiki extension
> for Exhibit
> > <http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Exhibit> . With this
> extension, you can now
> > enjoy all the features of Exhibit with the collaborative
> editing power
> > of Mediawiki."
> > ==========================
> > Michael Uschold
> > M&CT, Phantom Works
> > 425 373-2845
> > michael.f.uschold@...
> > ==========================
> Markus Krötzsch
> Institut AIFB, Universät Karlsruhe (TH), 76128 Karlsruhe
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