RSS Viewer

Hi,

this problem is eliminated in newest CVS version - some features like 
beep on new article or icons for channels are not yet implemented but I 
will deal with this issues tomorrow -  you will receive a note. In the 
new CVS version articles are saved to a database :)

Ciao
Christoph

Norman Walsh wrote:

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>Hi folks,
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>Recently, I've noticed an annoying problem. I don't recall when it
>started (or if it's always existed).
>
>The problem is that I click on a site and I get a list of articles
>some new and some old. Then, while I'm reading the list, the display
>refreshes and now all the articles are old. Not only is the refresh
>visually annoying, but marking all the articles as old means I often
>lose my place.
>
>Is there any way that the currently displayed site can be "locked" or
>something until I leave and come back?
>
>                                        Be seeing you,
>                                          norm
>
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>                              | cannot be considered other than a
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On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 17:56, Christoph Walcher wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> why don't we use some CMS system on rssview.sf.net? This would make it 
> far easier to publish Information (No developer stuff - this is better 
> handed by this newsgroup), organize a user friendly download area 
> (sf.net's download pages are a little confusing to new users), get in 
> touch with users and we don't have to care about design anymore ;).

Yea, I think we need a reasonable webpage.

> And after all - we need a little more information on our page..

Yes. That's right. I don't have an idea how to describe the RssView
application. My English is not perfect and I am thinking a lot if
the things I write are correct.

Perhaps we should write down all the features first and then we can
make a piece of text. :)

> I would prefer PostNuke to do that job. What do you think about this idea?

Well. I really don't have any idea about what to use for this purpose.
Make a backup of the current pages, place a "under construction" sign
and try your luck.

Martin

Hi,

I need a Database installing PostNuke - but I have no access to database 
administration on sf.net - could you create it and supply the pwd to me?

Ciao
Christoph

Martin Krzysiak wrote:

>On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 17:56, Christoph Walcher wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>why don't we use some CMS system on rssview.sf.net? This would make it 
>>far easier to publish Information (No developer stuff - this is better 
>>handed by this newsgroup), organize a user friendly download area 
>>(sf.net's download pages are a little confusing to new users), get in 
>>touch with users and we don't have to care about design anymore ;).
>>    
>>
>
>Yea, I think we need a reasonable webpage.
>
>  
>
>>And after all - we need a little more information on our page..
>>    
>>
>
>Yes. That's right. I don't have an idea how to describe the RssView
>application. My English is not perfect and I am thinking a lot if
>the things I write are correct.
>
>Perhaps we should write down all the features first and then we can
>make a piece of text. :)
>
>  
>
>>I would prefer PostNuke to do that job. What do you think about this idea?
>>    
>>
>
>Well. I really don't have any idea about what to use for this purpose.
>Make a backup of the current pages, place a "under construction" sign
>and try your luck.
>
>Martin
>
>
>
>
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Hi,

Martin Krzysiak wrote:

>>I would prefer PostNuke to do that job. What do you think about this idea?
>>    
>>
>
>Well. I really don't have any idea about what to use for this purpose.
>Make a backup of the current pages, place a "under construction" sign
>and try your luck.
>  
>
To get an impression what postnuke can do for us visit:
http://jdexter.sf.net/nuke/

I added an administrator user to try out all features:
user: rssview
pwd: rssview

The page is under Construction - not yet productive - so don't be shy to 
try out anything :)

Ciao
Christoph

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Hi,

in the last days I did some work on RssView:
I added a MenuBar, ToolBar to RssView. Introduced some icons for (they 
are green). Revamped the Popup Menu(s).

All functionality is realized via Actions so we have the same icons, 
tooltip etc. in our application

If you want to take a quick look on how it looks like - A Couple of new 
Screenshots are available at rssview.sourceforge.net. Note: I changed 
the L&F to System L&F. I think with JDK 1.4.2 this will be the L&F of 
most java programmers... - Screens were taken under WinXP :(

Removed Bug from RssSettings:
When deleting a channel and exiting RssView the channel was still there 
at the next restart.

PMD Registration:
I registered RssView at the PMD page: 
http://pmd.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/webpmd.pl
I think this could help us to write better code!

What is PMD (taken from their webpage)?
PMD scans Java source code and looks for potential problems like:

    * Unused local variables
    * Empty catch blocks
    * Unused parameters
    * Empty 'if' statements
    * Duplicate import statements
    * Unused private methods
    * Classes which could be Singletons
    * Short/long variable and method names

Installer:
I created installer for linux, windows and generic java enabled 
platforms. I know that some of you would like to realize this using 
WebStart but I think its quite easy to create these installer files and 
offers a lot of convenience to the users that want a quick tiny and 
versalite RSS feed reader out of the box. Let the user choose which 
system they want to prefer...
If you want to test these "prototype" installers: 
http://rssview.sourceforge.net/installer/
the .bin installer is for linux systems.

Proposal for Userinterface:
I find it very hard to keep track of Articles in Channels in our current 
Userinterface. What I would prefer is a layout like in popular Mail 
Clients (Mozilla, KMail) where you have one folder panel (our channel 
panel) one email items panel (A table of articles in the Channel) and a 
Content area where we could display the link target and/or some article 
details. The TitlePanel could die - I does not really offer really 
important information - we could realize this by a tooltip.

When will you release the next version of RssView?

Ciao
Christoph

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On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 15:52, Christoph Walcher wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> in the last days I did some work on RssView:

Hi, I tried the EXE-installer. It looks nice and without problems.
I like this layout with the menu. Looks almost like a browser.

The buttons are smaller and I like it like this.

> PMD Registration:
> I registered RssView at the PMD page: 
> http://pmd.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/webpmd.pl
> I think this could help us to write better code!

Yes. It's a good idea, because RssView should have clean code.
I guess there is lots to do, even it's small.

> I know that some of you would like to realize this using 
> WebStart but I think its quite easy to create these installer files and 
> offers a lot of convenience to the users that want a quick tiny and 
> versalite RSS feed reader out of the box.

Yes. We can try both ways. It's not that difficult to install using
Webstart. And the advantage is that it will keep your binary up-to-date.

> If you want to test these "prototype" installers: 
> http://rssview.sourceforge.net/installer/
> the .bin installer is for linux systems.

Yes. I looked at the EXE installer. It works, but I am somehow "afraid"
of EXE-files. Is there a way to sign such an installer?

> Proposal for Userinterface:
> I find it very hard to keep track of Articles in Channels in our current 
> Userinterface. What I would prefer is a layout like in popular Mail 
> Clients (Mozilla, KMail) where you have one folder panel (our channel 
> panel) one email items panel (A table of articles in the Channel) and a 
> Content area where we could display the link target and/or some article 
> details.

How about a UI like popular WEB BROWSERS? I would like to use RssView
with bookmarks, tabbed browsing and offline reader. It would be 
interesting to if we can save the feeds in a file including
pictures/logos/icons. There are also other type of feeds.

Any comments on that? Maybe I'm dreaming too much :)

> The TitlePanel could die - I does not really offer really 
> important information - we could realize this by a tooltip.

You don't need even a tooltip. I realized that people don't like the
title-area. It's ok if we kill it.

But keep the "search-box"! I like it and I am using it! We can move
it into the main area.

> When will you release the next version of RssView?

We can release, but there are 2 bugs. I don't like to release when
I have work scheduled. I've been sitting a long time at bug #712974,
but I haven't found any possibility to get rid of this bug.

I like this settings dialog. It looks great.

Martin

Hi,

>Yes. We can try both ways. It's not that difficult to install using
>Webstart. And the advantage is that it will keep your binary up-to-date.
>
Perfect! It's not much more work I guess.

>Yes. I looked at the EXE installer. It works, but I am somehow "afraid"
>of EXE-files. Is there a way to sign such an installer?
>
Hm, signing an EXE file - NO. But Windows users will like these files 
even if they do not know what they get before double clicking...

>How about a UI like popular WEB BROWSERS? I would like to use RssView
>with bookmarks, tabbed browsing and offline reader. It would be 
>interesting to if we can save the feeds in a file including
>pictures/logos/icons. There are also other type of feeds.
>
>Any comments on that? Maybe I'm dreaming too much :)
>  
>
Cool idea, I though about this earlier. But I see a Feed reader more as 
a News client than as a Browser...
Ah, and it's a lot of work!

> We can release, but there are 2 bugs. I don't like to release when I 
> have work scheduled. I've been sitting a long time at bug #712974, but 
> I haven't found any possibility to get rid of this bug.

Take a look into CVS Repository - the bug is gone. This is indeed a bug 
in Swing - they created a LinkController in HTMLEditorKit that is more 
or less hard coded and took developers the change to override this in a 
simple was - We have the Class RssHTMLEditorKit now. It works!

Ciao
Christoph

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