Rosegarden

Ray Klassen wrote:
> 
> I 
> would rather the notes deselected themselves immediately on mouse-up after a 
> drag operation.

That's not really consistent with usual drag'n drop behavior, is it ?

-- 
Guillaume
http://telegraph-road.org

> That's not really consistent with usual drag'n drop behavior, is it ?

Not as previously described. I have, however, noticed that quite often when 
selecting a note that I end up getting both the desired note and the 
previously selected one(s) inadvertantly unless I first deselect the 
previous notes. This can be a little pesky if say, I'm moving the new note 
up or down a semitone and the previsouly selected notes come along for the 
ride. Especially when these hitchhiker notes are out of sight somewhere 
beyond the edge of the window and the problem doesn't manifest itself until 
playback.

Perhaps the original description could have been worded better.

On Monday 11 Oct 2004 15:06, Guillaume Laurent wrote:
> Ray Klassen wrote:
> > I would rather the notes deselected themselves immediately on
> > mouse-up after a drag operation.
>
> That's not really consistent with usual drag'n drop behavior, is it?

Sounds to me like the proper fix would be that if you click to drag an 
event that is not already selected then that event should become the 
sole selection and anything else currently selected should become 
unselected.  I'm not sure how many people are relying on the current 
behaviour, but I bet it's fewer than are being caught out by stuff 
being moved apparently at random because they happened to have a 
selection somewhere else before they started dragging.

I'm sure I had a reason for doing it the way it is, but it seems to me 
now that it was probably a stupid one.

What do you think?


Chris

On Monday 11 October 2004 19:56, Chris Cannam wrote:
>
> Sounds to me like the proper fix would be that if you click to drag an
> event that is not already selected then that event should become the
> sole selection and anything else currently selected should become
> unselected.

Wow, yeah, I just tried and Ray is absolutely right (now that I understand 
what he meant) : the previously selected note remains selected when you click 
on another one, it is unselected only when you release the mouse button. So a 
press-drag-release does have the described effect, and it's definitely 
broken. Bad Chris, bad.

-- 
						Guillaume.
						http://www.telegraph-road.org

On Monday 11 Oct 2004 18:56, Chris Cannam wrote:
> Sounds to me like the proper fix would be that if you click to drag
> an event that is not already selected then that event should become
> the sole selection and anything else currently selected should
> become unselected.

I take Steve Conrad's earlier email to be in agreement with this.

I've filed a bug report and implemented the fix as described above, 
now in CVS.

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1044754&group_id=4932&atid=104932

Other comments or opposition still welcome.


Chris

> I take Steve Conrad's earlier email to be in agreement with this.

You take it correctly.

The current behaviour is more what I'd expect if the control key were being 
held down while clicking.

Hi-
	'scuse me butting in. I can't get Rosegarden to make any sounds. It tells me 
it can't start the synthesiser. Any ideas what to do ?

	Dave Mackie


On Monday 11 October 2004 20:02, Chris Cannam wrote:
> On Saturday 09 Oct 2004 11:02, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote:
> > On Friday 08 October 2004 21:01, Chris Cannam wrote:
> > > Weird!  I've never seen that before, and I can't offhand think of
> > > anything that might cause it.  That might take some
> > > investigating.
> >
> > Another funny effect caused by events lying beyond a segment
> > boundary.
> >
> > Your bass segment has 32 bars, not 8 as it might appear. You
> > resized the segment down to 8 bars but the notes remain there, and
> > the repeat function is not able to stop at the segment boundary.
>
> It sounded like something to do with end markers, but I couldn't quite
> see why the repeat would appear to obey the end marker when
> determining when to repeat, but disregard it when choosing some
> far-flung variation in repeat number 3.  The part that was confusing
> me, of course, was that the 32-bar segment actually did contain the
> same 8 bars repeated three times, thus obscuring the fact that the
> repeat mechanism wasn't working at the 8th bar at all.
>
> I've opened a SF bug report for this (I like to have a bug ID for CVS
> logs) and fixed it in CVS.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1044490&group_id=4
>932&atid=104932
>
>
> Chris
>
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On Monday 11 Oct 2004 13:49, David Mackie wrote:
> 'scuse me butting in. I can't get Rosegarden to make any sounds.
> It tells me it can't start the synthesiser.

Do you mean can't start the sequencer?

Try running the "rosegardensequencer" executable from a command line 
shell by hand (having first made sure via "ps uwx | grep rosegarden" 
that neither "rosegarden" nor "rosegardensequencer" is already 
running), and let us know what it prints out.  See also

http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/resources/faq/#toc12


Chris

Hi-
	thanks for your reply. Rosegarden tell me that "JACK is not running" and that
"open /dev/snd/seq   failed :   No such file or directory". 
	I use Mandrake 10, but could be corruption on the install CDs. I dunno that 
for sure, just a thought.



	Dave Mackie

On Monday 11 October 2004 22:06, Chris Cannam wrote:
> On Monday 11 Oct 2004 13:49, David Mackie wrote:
> > 'scuse me butting in. I can't get Rosegarden to make any sounds.
> > It tells me it can't start the synthesiser.
>
> Do you mean can't start the sequencer?
>
> Try running the "rosegardensequencer" executable from a command line
> shell by hand (having first made sure via "ps uwx | grep rosegarden"
> that neither "rosegarden" nor "rosegardensequencer" is already
> running), and let us know what it prints out.  See also
>
> http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/resources/faq/#toc12
>
>
> Chris
>
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Hi, Chris -
	I did as you suggested. "Rosie" won't do anything now ! Eeeeek ! I did get 
the initializing garden pic, then it stalled.
	Dave Mackie


On Monday 11 October 2004 22:06, Chris Cannam wrote:
> On Monday 11 Oct 2004 13:49, David Mackie wrote:
> > 'scuse me butting in. I can't get Rosegarden to make any sounds.
> > It tells me it can't start the synthesiser.
>
> Do you mean can't start the sequencer?
>
> Try running the "rosegardensequencer" executable from a command line
> shell by hand (having first made sure via "ps uwx | grep rosegarden"
> that neither "rosegarden" nor "rosegardensequencer" is already
> running), and let us know what it prints out.  See also
>
> http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/resources/faq/#toc12
>
>
> Chris
>
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On Monday 11 Oct 2004 14:59, David Mackie wrote:
>  thanks for your reply. Rosegarden tell me that "JACK is not
> running" and that "open /dev/snd/seq   failed :   No such file or
> directory".

The former error is referring to jackd, the JACK audio daemon.  JACK 
is the audio connection framework necessary for audio recording (as 
opposed to MIDI), sampled audio, or synth plugins in Rosegarden.  If 
you want to use Rosegarden solely for MIDI, just ignore it for now.  
Otherwise see http://jackit.sf.net/ for more information.

The latter error (/dev/snd/seq) is more fundamental -- it means the 
ALSA MIDI communications layer isn't working, probably because the 
relevant kernel modules haven't been loaded.  Try

  lsmod | grep snd

and see what you get.  You're looking for either snd-seq (for a 2.4 
kernel) or snd_seq (for 2.6).  If you have some snd- modules  but not 
these, try running "modprobe snd-seq" as root and see what happens.  
If you have no snd- modules at all, you need to go and configure the 
ALSA sound drivers first.


Chris