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Thanks for letting me know.

Regards,
Vaughan

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Hi again

It may be of interest.
I tried procexp on my Debian machine with PyQt-Qwt and Qwt6 and it works perfectly :)

Regards
Gudjon

Hi again

It may be of interest.
I tried procexp on my Debian machine with PyQt-Qwt and Qwt6 and it works
perfectly :)

Regards
Gudjon

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Hello Gudjon,

Appreciate you looking further into this.

However I've since had a "win".

Upon further investigation, I found an earlier version of Process Explorer which uses PyQt4 and Python2.

This version of Process Explorer works with the recommended version of PyQwt.

It seems that the install instructions were not updated for the latest version of Process Explorer; but the earlier version is adequate for my needs.

Thanks again!

Regards,
VW

Hi VW


On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:28 PM Discussion and help list for PyQwt
users <pyq...@li...> wrote:
> However to the best of my limited knowledge Qt5 is not available on CentOS 7, so it looks like I won't be able to get Process Explorer running.
I took a look. CentOS 7 is released 2009 so I guess you are correct

However if you look at your earlier message:
>>File "/home/zen/Downloads/procexp-master/singleprocess.py", line 23, in <module>
>>    from PyQt5 import Qwt
>>ImportError: cannot import name 'Qwt'
You are trying to import from PyQt5, not PyQt4. Where is the Qwt
library installed?

I tried to run procexp on my computer with Qwt6/PyQt-Qwt and it seems
to work but since it needs
root access I will test on a less valuable computer. I guess that
there are some things that don't work
but porting it should not be that difficult but if you are interested
in a more modern Linux distribution.

Cheers
Gudjon

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Hello Gudjon,

> I am a bit confused. It seems like you compiled PyQwt for Qt4 and then use procexp for Qt5?
> You will have to run procexp for Qt4 since PyQwt only works for Qt4.

To be honest, I just followed the installation instructions for CentOS 7 as provided.

It would appear from what you're saying, that they're incorrect.

However to the best of my limited knowledge Qt5 is not available on CentOS 7, so it looks like I won't be able to get Process Explorer running.

Thanks for your explanation.

Regards,
VW

Hi

I am a bit confused. It seems like you compiled PyQwt for Qt4 and then
use procexp for Qt5?
You will have to run procexp for Qt4 since PyQwt only works for Qt4.

I have created a Python PyQt wrapper for Qwt6 but that is a much more
work to port procexp to that version.
Qt4 has been removed from Debian but if I wanted to run it in Debian I
would install an older version
in a chroot and that may be easy as well in CentOS.

Hope this helps.
Gudjon

Hello,

I'm trying to install Process Explorer on CentOS v7

I'm following instructions from here:
https://github.com/wolfc01/procexp/blob/master/README.md

Specifically
install dependencies for CentOS 7

for CentOS version 7 PyQwt is not available in standard and EPEL repositories: --> build from source Download PyQwt5 sources from https://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/project/pyqwt/pyqwt5/PyQwt-5.2.0/PyQwt-5.2.0.tar.gz

as user root:

yum install epel-release

sudo yum group install "Development Tools"

yum install PyQt4-devel

yum install qwt

yum install qwt-devel

tar -xvzf PyQwt-5.2.0/PyQwt-5.2.0.tar.gz

cd PyQwt-5.2.0/configure

python configure.py -Q ../qwt-5.2

make

make install

last step for all distro's: download procexp python sources, unzip and run

as a non root user :

download procexp from github as zip file from https://github.com/wolfc01/procexp/archive/master.zip

unzip master.zip

cd procexp-master

./procexp.py


After performing the above, I observe the following:
$ ./procexp.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./procexp.py", line 30, in <module>
    import procreader.reader
  File "/home/zen/Downloads/procexp-master/procreader/reader.py", line 25, in <module>
    import singleprocess
  File "/home/zen/Downloads/procexp-master/singleprocess.py", line 23, in <module>
    from PyQt5 import Qwt
ImportError: cannot import name 'Qwt'

I was hoping that I may be able to get some suggestions on how to troubleshoot this error?

I'm wondering if I need to specify a search path for the PyQwt-5.2.0 installation?

Thanks

VW

Hi Carlos and Gerard

I don't know if I may mention it but I have implemented a wrapper for Qwt6.
https://github.com/GauiStori/PyQt-Qwt
and it works pretty well.

Regards
Gudjon

PyQwt is unmaintained. I advise to use another plotting package.

Best regards -- Gerard

On 4/17/19 5:07 AM, Discussion and help list for PyQwt users wrote:
>
> Dear,
>
>  I've being try to install Qwt5 from this library 
> https://github.com/PyQwt/PyQwt5 without succes. all I can get is this error 
> message:
>
> @Dr-Ghonzo:~/PyQwt5-master/configure$ python configure.py -Q ../qwt-5.2
> Command line options:
> {'debug': False,
>  'disable_numarray': False,
>  'disable_numeric': False,
>  'disable_numpy': False,
>  'excluded_features': [],
>  'extra_cflags': [],
>  'extra_cxxflags': [],
>  'extra_defines': [],
>  'extra_include_dirs': [],
>  'extra_lflags': [],
>  'extra_lib_dirs': [],
>  'extra_libs': [],
>  'jobs': '',
>  'module_install_path': '',
>  'modules': [],
>  'qt': 4,
>  'qwt_sources': '../qwt-5.2',
>  'sip_include_dirs': [],
>  'subdirs': [],
>  'timelines': [],
>  'trace': ''}
> Found SIP-4.19.12.
> Found posix operating system.
> Found Python-2.7.15+ (default, Oct  2 2018, 22:12:08)
> [GCC 8.2.0].
> Do not get upset by error messages in the next 3 compiler checks:
> Check whether 'size_t' and 'unsigned int' are the same type:
> size_t_check.cpp:3:6: error: no declaration matches ‘void a::f(unsigned int)’
>  void a::f(unsigned int) {};
>       ^
> size_t_check.cpp:2:24: note: candidate is: ‘void a::f(size_t)’
>  class a { public: void f(size_t); };
>                         ^
> size_t_check.cpp:2:7: note: ‘class a’ defined here
>  class a { public: void f(size_t); };
>        ^
> NO
> Check whether 'size_t' and 'unsigned long' are the same type:
> YES
> Check whether 'size_t' and 'unsigned long long' are the same type:
> size_t_check.cpp:3:6: error: no declaration matches ‘void a::f(long long 
> unsigned int)’
>  void a::f(unsigned long long) {};
>       ^
> size_t_check.cpp:2:24: note: candidate is: ‘void a::f(size_t)’
>  class a { public: void f(size_t); };
>                         ^
> size_t_check.cpp:2:7: note: ‘class a’ defined here
>  class a { public: void f(size_t); };
>        ^
> NO
> Failed to import numarray: PyQwt will be build without support for numarray.
> Failed to import Numeric: PyQwt will be build without support for Numeric.
> Found NumPy-1.16.2.
> Info: creating stash file /home/luciano/PyQwt5-master/configure/.qmake.stash
> g++ -c -pipe -O2 -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_CORE_LIB -I. 
> -I../qwt-5.2/src -isystem /usr/include/python2.7 
> -I../../.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/include -isystem 
> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5 -isystem 
> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtCore -I. 
> -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/mkspecs/linux-g++ -o qwt_version_info.o 
> qwt_version_info.cpp
> qwt_version_info.cpp:3:10: fatal error: qwt_global.h: No existe el archivo o 
> el directorio
>  #include <qwt_global.h>
>           ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> compilation terminated.
> make: *** [qwt_version_info.mak:364: qwt_version_info.o] Error 1
> sh: 1: ./qwt_version_info: not found
> Failed to import qwt_version_info.
>
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Dear,

  I've being try to install Qwt5 from this library 
https://github.com/PyQwt/PyQwt5 without succes. all I can get is this 
error message:

@Dr-Ghonzo:~/PyQwt5-master/configure$ python configure.py -Q ../qwt-5.2
Command line options:
{'debug': False,
  'disable_numarray': False,
  'disable_numeric': False,
  'disable_numpy': False,
  'excluded_features': [],
  'extra_cflags': [],
  'extra_cxxflags': [],
  'extra_defines': [],
  'extra_include_dirs': [],
  'extra_lflags': [],
  'extra_lib_dirs': [],
  'extra_libs': [],
  'jobs': '',
  'module_install_path': '',
  'modules': [],
  'qt': 4,
  'qwt_sources': '../qwt-5.2',
  'sip_include_dirs': [],
  'subdirs': [],
  'timelines': [],
  'trace': ''}
Found SIP-4.19.12.
Found posix operating system.
Found Python-2.7.15+ (default, Oct  2 2018, 22:12:08)
[GCC 8.2.0].
Do not get upset by error messages in the next 3 compiler checks:
Check whether 'size_t' and 'unsigned int' are the same type:
size_t_check.cpp:3:6: error: no declaration matches ‘void a::f(unsigned 
int)’
  void a::f(unsigned int) {};
       ^
size_t_check.cpp:2:24: note: candidate is: ‘void a::f(size_t)’
  class a { public: void f(size_t); };
                         ^
size_t_check.cpp:2:7: note: ‘class a’ defined here
  class a { public: void f(size_t); };
        ^
NO
Check whether 'size_t' and 'unsigned long' are the same type:
YES
Check whether 'size_t' and 'unsigned long long' are the same type:
size_t_check.cpp:3:6: error: no declaration matches ‘void a::f(long long 
unsigned int)’
  void a::f(unsigned long long) {};
       ^
size_t_check.cpp:2:24: note: candidate is: ‘void a::f(size_t)’
  class a { public: void f(size_t); };
                         ^
size_t_check.cpp:2:7: note: ‘class a’ defined here
  class a { public: void f(size_t); };
        ^
NO
Failed to import numarray: PyQwt will be build without support for numarray.
Failed to import Numeric: PyQwt will be build without support for Numeric.
Found NumPy-1.16.2.
Info: creating stash file /home/luciano/PyQwt5-master/configure/.qmake.stash
g++ -c -pipe -O2 -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_CORE_LIB 
-I. -I../qwt-5.2/src -isystem /usr/include/python2.7 
-I../../.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/include -isystem 
/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5 -isystem 
/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtCore -I. 
-I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/mkspecs/linux-g++ -o qwt_version_info.o 
qwt_version_info.cpp
qwt_version_info.cpp:3:10: fatal error: qwt_global.h: No existe el 
archivo o el directorio
  #include <qwt_global.h>
           ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
make: *** [qwt_version_info.mak:364: qwt_version_info.o] Error 1
sh: 1: ./qwt_version_info: not found
Failed to import qwt_version_info.




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Hi

This is Minoru live in Japan

I have to get PyQt-Py2.6-4.4.4-2.exe

Please teach me the Old Version Site.

Minoru

OK for me -- Gerard

On 01/22/2018 07:47 PM, Discussion and help list for PyQwt users wrote:
> Hi Gerard + Gudjon,
>
>> In fact, unless you want to take over, I want to get rid of keeping
>> PyQwt on sourceforge site.
> But then wouldn't it be best to make Gudjon being the maintainer of PyQwt 
> and PyQt-Qwt would be released as PyQwt-6.x ?
>
> ciao,
> Uwe
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Hi Gerard + Gudjon,

> In fact, unless you want to take over, I want to get rid of keeping
> PyQwt on sourceforge site.

But then wouldn't it be best to make Gudjon being the maintainer of PyQwt 
and PyQt-Qwt would be released as PyQwt-6.x ?

ciao,
Uwe

Hi Gudjon,

there exists also https://github.com/PyQwt, but neither the guy who did the fork
nor I did any maintenance.
In fact, unless you want to take over, I want to get rid of keeping PyQwt on
sourceforge site.

I am really not interested in PyQwt anymore and I do not care about eventual
copyright.

Regards -- Gerard

On 01/20/2018 09:31 AM, Discussion and help list for PyQwt users wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Gerard: I did fork your work.
> https://github.com/GauiStori/PyQwt5    to work with python3
> https://github.com/GauiStori/PyQwt3D  to work with python3 and Qt3,4,5.
>
> Qt4 will be removed from Debian soon and then Qwt5 and PyQwt5 will be removed
> as well.
> My wrapper PyQt-Qwt for Qwt6 is supposed to replace it.
>
> I am going to refer to my fork as the upstream version for PyQwt5 but I would much
> more like you to patch your sources and I remove my forks, if you are interested
> Gerard?
>
> Regards
> Gudjon
>
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Hi all

Gerard: I did fork your work.
https://github.com/GauiStori/PyQwt5    to work with python3
https://github.com/GauiStori/PyQwt3D  to work with python3 and Qt3,4,5.

Qt4 will be removed from Debian soon and then Qwt5 and PyQwt5 will be
removed as well.
My wrapper PyQt-Qwt for Qwt6 is supposed to replace it.

I am going to refer to my fork as the upstream version for PyQwt5 but I
would much
more like you to patch your sources and I remove my forks, if you are
interested
Gerard?

Regards
Gudjon

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:53:08 +0100, Discussion and help list for PyQwt
users wrote:

> PyQwt is unmaintained, so I (author) would not rely on it.

But there is another library, that is actively maintained and works with 
current versions of Qt and Qwt: https://github.com/GauiStori/PyQt-Qwt

Uwe

Hi,

PyQwt is unmaintained, so I (author) would not rely on it.
You have to install PyQwt with a matching version of sip and PyQt.

Best regards -- Gerard

On 01/17/2018 04:27 AM, Discussion and help list for PyQwt users wrote:
> Hi, 
>
> I am trying to download a pyqwt 5.2.1 for python 2.7 but the link to the
> download page only contains pyqwt 5.2.0 which only supports python 2.6, not up
> to 2.7.
>
> Can you send me a link for donwloaing pyqwt 5.2.1 for python 2.7?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
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>
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Hi,

I am trying to download a pyqwt 5.2.1 for python 2.7 but the link to the
download page only contains pyqwt 5.2.0 which only supports python 2.6, not
up to 2.7.

Can you send me a link for donwloaing pyqwt 5.2.1 for python 2.7?

Thank you very much.


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On 28/07/2017 13:55, Discussion and help list for PyQwt users wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 12:17:07 +0200, Discussion and help list for PyQwt
> This is a different story, mostly related to the fact, that PyQt-Qwt came 
> to late. But this is no valid statement about its quality.
>

My comment had nothing to do with its quality but on the fact it
inherits the problems already affecting PyQwt that I considered of good
quality.

The problem is that it uses sip, therefore it is tied to a particular
versions of sip and it can be problematic to run PySide if possible at
all. Thus preventing a solution not imposing a license on the end user
(GPL) unless a commercial PyQt license is bought.

Any "good" option for me should be compatible with PyQt *and* PySide.

Armando

On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 12:17:07 +0200, Discussion and help list for PyQwt
users wrote:

> It is a pity that there is no good python binding to Qwt.

I'm no Python user myself, but to me PyQt-Qwt seems to be as good as PyQwt 
was for Qwt5.

Maybe you dislike Qwt or the idea of having Python Bindings for a C++ 
project in general, but beside that you have to elaborate, what is wrong 
about Gudjons work, compared with what Gerard had once created.

> ... because former PyQwt users have chosen other solutions 

This is a different story, mostly related to the fact, that PyQt-Qwt came 
to late. But this is no valid statement about its quality.

Uwe

On 28/07/2017 11:49, Discussion and help list for PyQwt users wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 11:11:39 +0200, Discussion and help list for PyQwt
> users wrote:
>
>> I haven't worked with what Uwe is recommending (PyQt-Qwt), but I see
>> that is the latest attempt at wrapping his Qwt6 C++ library into a
>> python binding.
> It is no attempt, it is the same what PyQwt did for Qwt5. The only 
> reason, that it didn't happen before is: nobody did it.

It is a pity that there is no good python binding to Qwt. That said
there is more than one reason.

Perhaps one of them is the fact nobody tried a binding independent of
the binding used for Qt with all the associated licensing and version
matching issues. With the evolution of Cython that may be possible, but
at this moment the effort seems too high because former PyQwt users have
chosen other solutions either based on directly using Qt (pyqtgraph,
PythonQwt), on using OpenGL (visvis, vispy), on using other libraries
(matplotlib, chaco,...) or on making an abstraction in order not to rely
on a unique graphics library (like silx that can use either matplotlib
or OpenGL at this point).

On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 11:11:39 +0200, Discussion and help list for PyQwt
users wrote:

> I haven't worked with what Uwe is recommending (PyQt-Qwt), but I see
> that is the latest attempt at wrapping his Qwt6 C++ library into a
> python binding.

It is no attempt, it is the same what PyQwt did for Qwt5. The only 
reason, that it didn't happen before is: nobody did it.
 
Uwe

 Armando wrote:
> I would recommend you to look at pyqtgraph (http://www.pyqtgraph.org/)
> and/or <begin publicity> silx  (http://www.silx.org/)  </end publicity>.


Uwe wrote:
> can be replaced by: https://github.com/GauiStori/PyQt-Qwt for more
> recent Qt and Qwt versions.

I haven't worked with what Uwe is recommending (PyQt-Qwt), but I see that is 
the latest attempt at wrapping his Qwt6 C++ library into a python binding.

IMHO, this is a bad idea: it makes debugging so much difficult and it has a 
larger potential to introduce bugs (e.g. segfaults!) over which you, as a 
python programmer, will have limited control. All these were issues of the 
otherwise nice old PyQwt5.

In contrast, the pure-python approaches that Armando mentions (pyqtgraph, 
silx), and also guiqwt (https://github.com/PierreRaybaut/guiqwt) are much more 
attractive for any new project where reusing old PyQwt5 code is not required.

As for a personal preference (after long and careful evaluations over the last 
years), I would say that if you are into scientific programming, have a look at 
whether silx fits your needs (silx is still young but is backed by a relatively 
strong group from large scientific institutions). Pyqtgraph is also very 
attractive and more mature than silx, and is perhaps a bit more general in its 
target audience.

I hope this helps,

Carlos


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Thanks for your answers.

PyQt-Qwt is it compatible with GUI designed with QtDesigner (.ui file
convert into .py file with pyuic5) ? I saw the scatterplot.py example but
here the GUI is created from scractch.

2017-07-28 7:31 GMT+02:00 Discussion and help list for PyQwt users <
pyq...@li...>:

> On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 18:23:47 +0200, Discussion and help list for PyQwt
> users wrote:
>
> > This project can be considered "abandon ware".
>
> and can be replaced by: https://github.com/GauiStori/PyQt-Qwt for more
> recent Qt and Qwt versions.
>
> Uwe
>
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And last question, I am a very beginner with python so can you explain me
how install the Qwt6 library on Windows ? (I installed anaconda without
right administrator to use pycharm, qtdesigner and python)

Thanks for your help

2017-07-28 8:54 GMT+02:00 Mathieu Gauquelin <mga...@ep...>:

> Thanks for your answers.
>
> PyQt-Qwt is it compatible with GUI designed with QtDesigner (.ui file
> convert into .py file with pyuic5) ? I saw the scatterplot.py example but
> here the GUI is created from scractch.
>
> 2017-07-28 7:31 GMT+02:00 Discussion and help list for PyQwt users <
> pyq...@li...>:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 18:23:47 +0200, Discussion and help list for PyQwt
>> users wrote:
>>
>> > This project can be considered "abandon ware".
>>
>> and can be replaced by: https://github.com/GauiStori/PyQt-Qwt for more
>> recent Qt and Qwt versions.
>>
>> Uwe
>>
>>
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