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On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 01:02 -0600, Tremulant wrote:
> gaim2-cvs and beta2, crash when the following operations are performed:
> 
> - Changing the account avatar
> - Sending a file
> - Accepting a file
> - and any operation requiring an "Open"  or "Save as..." dialog to be displayed.
> 
> The FreeBSD error message is:
> 
> > ld-elf.so.1: libgthread-2.0.so.0: Undefined symbol "pthread_getschedparam"

Can you get a backtrace? We don't use pthreads directly, so this seems
like a case of a dependent library's pkg-config stuff being wrong, but
I'm just speculating.

Thanks,
Richard

On 1/29/06, Richard Laager <rlaager@...> wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 01:02 -0600, Tremulant wrote:
> > gaim2-cvs and beta2, crash when the following operations are performed:
> >
> > - Changing the account avatar
> > - Sending a file
> > - Accepting a file
> > - and any operation requiring an "Open"  or "Save as..." dialog to be d=
isplayed.
> >
> > The FreeBSD error message is:
> >
> > > ld-elf.so.1: libgthread-2.0.so.0: Undefined symbol "pthread_getschedp=
aram"
>
> Can you get a backtrace? We don't use pthreads directly, so this seems
> like a case of a dependent library's pkg-config stuff being wrong, but
> I'm just speculating.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>

This is gaim's debug output:
...
msn: C: SB 003: MSG 7 D 152
msn: C: SB 003: OUT
msn: destroy httpconn (0x83de140)
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0: Undefined
symbol "pthread_getschedparam"
dns[78269]: Oops, father has gone, wait for me, wait...!
$
______________________


This is gdb output:
...
msn: C: SB 001: MSG 7 D 152
msn: C: SB 001: OUT
msn: destroy httpconn (0x83cae80)
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0: Undefined
symbol "pthread_getschedparam"

Program exited with code 01.
dns[78283]: Oops, father has gone, wait for me, wait...!
(gdb) bt full
No stack.
(gdb)
_____________________

I checkout the source (cvs) about once a week, and I could say this
behaviour is something new.

This is my gthread pkg-config info:

$ pkg-config --cflags --libs gthread-2.0
-D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include  -pthread -L/usr/local/lib
-lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -liconv


-T

you could always readd the pounce as well...


driZZleuk@... wrote:
> I quite often remove people and add them back later. I would be pain to set the pounce back up again. Dunno if the current behaviour is intentional or not but it suits me fine...
>
> rob <robby.oconnor@...> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hey,
>>
>> shouldn't it work that if i removed a buddy from my list, that buddy's 
>> buddy pounce should be removed along with that buddy? Why does it not 
>> work like that? I observed that last night...
>>
>> r0bby.
>>
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How about when you remove a buddy that has pounces set, you get "This buddy
also has (X) buddy pounces set, would you like to remove them?"


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On 1/27/06, rob <robby.oconnor@...> wrote:
>
> you could always readd the pounce as well...
>
>
> driZZleuk@... wrote:
> > I quite often remove people and add them back later. I would be pain to
> set the pounce back up again. Dunno if the current behaviour is intention=
al
> or not but it suits me fine...
> >
> > rob <robby.oconnor@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> shouldn't it work that if i removed a buddy from my list, that buddy's
> >> buddy pounce should be removed along with that buddy? Why does it not
> >> work like that? I observed that last night...
> >>
> >> r0bby.
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I was considering writing a patch for this but then i realized that when 
i code, people get thr strong urge to murder me..or stuff me in a 
dumpster...so yeh That sounds like it'd work...give people the option as 
to whether or not to remove the pounces...


Travis Harris wrote:
> How about when you remove a buddy that has pounces set, you get "This 
> buddy also has (X) buddy pounces set, would you like to remove them?"
>
>
> -- 
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>     Travis Harris
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>     Newmanstown, PA 17073
>
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>
>
>
> On 1/27/06, *rob* <robby.oconnor@... 
> <mailto:robby.oconnor@...>> wrote:
>
>     you could always readd the pounce as well...
>
>
>     driZZleuk@... <mailto:driZZleuk@...> wrote:
>     > I quite often remove people and add them back later. I would be
>     pain to set the pounce back up again. Dunno if the current
>     behaviour is intentional or not but it suits me fine...
>     >
>     > rob <robby.oconnor@... <mailto:robby.oconnor@...>>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >> Hey,
>     >>
>     >> shouldn't it work that if i removed a buddy from my list, that
>     buddy's
>     >> buddy pounce should be removed along with that buddy? Why does
>     it not
>     >> work like that? I observed that last night...
>     >>
>     >> r0bby.
>     >>
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Not all pounces require you to have the person in your buddy list.  For
example, "pounce when buddy starts typing."

I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask the Gaim user if they want to remove the
pounce... but it also wouldn't hurt to NOT ask.  I don't really care either
way, but I'd bet that a lot of people think Gaim already has a lot of annoying
popup windows.

-Mark

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:27:51 -0500, rob wrote
> I was considering writing a patch for this but then i realized that 
> when i code, people get thr strong urge to murder me..or stuff me in 
> a dumpster...so yeh That sounds like it'd work...give people the 
> option as to whether or not to remove the pounces...
> 
> Travis Harris wrote:
> > How about when you remove a buddy that has pounces set, you get "This 
> > buddy also has (X) buddy pounces set, would you like to remove them?"
> >
> > On 1/27/06, *rob* <robby.oconnor@... 
> > <mailto:robby.oconnor@...>> wrote:
> >
> >     you could always readd the pounce as well...
> >
> >
> >     driZZleuk@... <mailto:driZZleuk@...> wrote:
> >     > I quite often remove people and add them back later. I would be
> >     pain to set the pounce back up again. Dunno if the current
> >     behaviour is intentional or not but it suits me fine...
> >     >
> >     > rob <robby.oconnor@... <mailto:robby.oconnor@...>>
> >     wrote:
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >> Hey,
> >     >>
> >     >> shouldn't it work that if i removed a buddy from my list, that
> >     buddy's
> >     >> buddy pounce should be removed along with that buddy? Why does
> >     it not
> >     >> work like that? I observed that last night...
> >     >>
> >     >> r0bby.

I reckon it would be cool if there was a single popup that said:

Are you sure you want to remove buddy?

with checkboxes (where applicable and unchecked by default) for:
- removing pounces, 
- removing logs, 
- blocking the buddy

Although I certainly don't want it enough to bother coding it.

"Mark Doliner" <mark@...> wrote:

>Not all pounces require you to have the person in your buddy list.  For
>example, "pounce when buddy starts typing."
>
>I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask the Gaim user if they want to remove the
>pounce... but it also wouldn't hurt to NOT ask.  I don't really care either
>way, but I'd bet that a lot of people think Gaim already has a lot of annoying
>popup windows.
>
>-Mark
>
>On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:27:51 -0500, rob wrote
>> I was considering writing a patch for this but then i realized that 
>> when i code, people get thr strong urge to murder me..or stuff me in 
>> a dumpster...so yeh That sounds like it'd work...give people the 
>> option as to whether or not to remove the pounces...
>> 
>> Travis Harris wrote:
>> > How about when you remove a buddy that has pounces set, you get "This 
>> > buddy also has (X) buddy pounces set, would you like to remove them?"
>> >
>> > On 1/27/06, *rob* <robby.oconnor@... 
>> > <mailto:robby.oconnor@...>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     you could always readd the pounce as well...
>> >
>> >
>> >     driZZleuk@... <mailto:driZZleuk@...> wrote:
>> >     > I quite often remove people and add them back later. I would be
>> >     pain to set the pounce back up again. Dunno if the current
>> >     behaviour is intentional or not but it suits me fine...
>> >     >
>> >     > rob <robby.oconnor@... <mailto:robby.oconnor@...>>
>> >     wrote:
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >> Hey,
>> >     >>
>> >     >> shouldn't it work that if i removed a buddy from my list, that
>> >     buddy's
>> >     >> buddy pounce should be removed along with that buddy? Why does
>> >     it not
>> >     >> work like that? I observed that last night...
>> >     >>
>> >     >> r0bby.
>
>

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I think this is great! and just to keep the idea flowing how bout something
like

Are you sure you want to remove buddy '[buddy name here]'?
- removing pounces (4 pounces stored),
- removing logs (12MB),
- block '[buddy name here]'

And I'd love to help code it, but until we have Gaim.NET (mono, please don'=
t
shoot me) or I get a little more familiar with non Visual studio coding, we
are all safer with me keeping my little fingers out!


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    Newmanstown, PA 17073

    866.213.6539


On 1/30/06, driZZleuk@... <driZZleuk@...> wrote:
>
> I reckon it would be cool if there was a single popup that said:
>
> Are you sure you want to remove buddy?
>
> with checkboxes (where applicable and unchecked by default) for:
> - removing pounces,
> - removing logs,
> - blocking the buddy
>
> Although I certainly don't want it enough to bother coding it.
>
> "Mark Doliner" <mark@...> wrote:
>
> >Not all pounces require you to have the person in your buddy list.  For
> >example, "pounce when buddy starts typing."
> >
> >I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask the Gaim user if they want to remove the
> >pounce... but it also wouldn't hurt to NOT ask.  I don't really care
> either
> >way, but I'd bet that a lot of people think Gaim already has a lot of
> annoying
> >popup windows.
> >
> >-Mark
> >
> >On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:27:51 -0500, rob wrote
> >> I was considering writing a patch for this but then i realized that
> >> when i code, people get thr strong urge to murder me..or stuff me in
> >> a dumpster...so yeh That sounds like it'd work...give people the
> >> option as to whether or not to remove the pounces...
> >>
> >> Travis Harris wrote:
> >> > How about when you remove a buddy that has pounces set, you get "Thi=
s
> >> > buddy also has (X) buddy pounces set, would you like to remove them?=
"
> >> >
> >> > On 1/27/06, *rob* <robby.oconnor@...
> >> > <mailto:robby.oconnor@...>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >     you could always readd the pounce as well...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >     driZZleuk@... <mailto:driZZleuk@...> wrote:
> >> >     > I quite often remove people and add them back later. I would b=
e
> >> >     pain to set the pounce back up again. Dunno if the current
> >> >     behaviour is intentional or not but it suits me fine...
> >> >     >
> >> >     > rob <robby.oconnor@... <mailto:robby.oconnor@...>>
> >> >     wrote:
> >> >     >
> >> >     >
> >> >     >> Hey,
> >> >     >>
> >> >     >> shouldn't it work that if i removed a buddy from my list, tha=
t
> >> >     buddy's
> >> >     >> buddy pounce should be removed along with that buddy? Why doe=
s
> >> >     it not
> >> >     >> work like that? I observed that last night...
> >> >     >>
> >> >     >> r0bby.
> >
> >
>
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:56:20 -0600, Richard Laager wrote
> On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 12:42 -0800, Mark Doliner wrote:
> > * Set the session to NULL if it failed to connect.  This seems to
> >   only be needed when using with Avahi in Howl compatability mode.
> >   Patch by David Schmitt (#1418017)
> 
> Our configure doesn't yet use Avahi, does it?
> 
> Richard

Nope
-Mark

Richard Laager wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 12:42 -0800, Mark Doliner wrote:
> 
>>* Set the session to NULL if it failed to connect.  This seems to
>>  only be needed when using with Avahi in Howl compatability mode.
>>  Patch by David Schmitt (#1418017)
> 
> 
> Our configure doesn't yet use Avahi, does it?
> 
> Richard
> 

I thought it would, if ones Avahi is in howl compatibility mode?

Pete.

> In the new part where it has your recently used statuses, it would be 
> great if it just showed a given status once (mine has a half-dozen 
> "Available"s on the list).

I very much agree. Known issue. This will be fixed before we release the
final version of Gaim 2.0.0.

> Another thing is that when you click to open 
> the menu and there isn't any room at the bottom of the screen, it opens 
> a list big enough to hold all the items, but it has it scrolled so most 
> of the list is blank and you have to move the mouse down to the bottom 
> to see more than the top few entries.

Known issue. GTK+ bug. See http://gaim.sf.net/gtkrc-2.0 for the
appears-as-list workaround.

> Also, a mouse-over would be good 
> on the recent statuses menu to show you the entire away message.

That's a cool idea.

> On a somewhat different note, since I don't know if this has been 
> changed since beta1, when you used to be idle long enough for it to put 
> up an away message, it didn't change the main status box, just the 
> account boxes, so then to go back to available, you either had to send a 
> message or click Away before clicking Available on the main box.

I don't know about this, so I won't comment.

> My last complaint is that in the preferences for away and idle, the 
> "Status to apply at startup" menu doesn't have the default statuses 
> (Available, Invisible, Away, etc.), so you have to manually create an 
> Available saved status if you want to be set available at startup (there 
> is also no way to say "Don't set my status at startup."

Good point.

Thanks for your feedback.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 01:40:16PM -0600, Richard Laager wrote:
> > My last complaint is that in the preferences for away and idle, the 
> > "Status to apply at startup" menu doesn't have the default statuses 
> > (Available, Invisible, Away, etc.), so you have to manually create an 
> > Available saved status if you want to be set available at startup (there 
> > is also no way to say "Don't set my status at startup."
> 
> Good point.

How would "not setting your status" differ from what gaim -n does?

luke

> 
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Gaim Developers,

The version of GTK+ that GIMP-2.2.10 uses is 'gtk+-2.8.9-setup-1' which
is newer then gtk+ which is included in the GAIM Windows Installer
package.  I am sorry to be using GAIM in windows anyway, since it can be
built from Source in Unix and such...

When GAIM gaim-2.0.0beta1 is installed with the newer GTK+ libs on
Windows XP PRO (fully updated), it seems to work.  When the GTK+ libs
v2.8.9 are installed, there is a "Connection error from Notification
server: Writing error." for AOL, ICQ and MSN accounts, which ultimately
leads to a non connection.  It appears that Jabber and Yahoo protocols
are OK.  I am also Assuming GIMP will only work with the new libs, and
they can not work in conjunction because of the version mismatch.

Just wanted to leave this feedback,
Keep up the Great Work!!
S. Viemeister
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