On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 11:33:02AM -0500, Robert Love wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 00:46, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > I disagree. for those of us not using the docklet, and between now and
> > when a better status management method is worked into gaim (currently
> > scheduled for 0.61, after the whole mess of moving to gtk2 is over, the
> > away message dialog is the sole way for a user to be able to tell for
> > his/her self that [s]he is away. as such, it is necessary. after we have
> > deryni's status menu worked in and derjohan's status icons probly as
> > well, then i will be more inclined to agree that the separate dialog can
> > go. even then though, having it lets you know, 12 hours latter, what
> > away message you selected, and so it is still not w/out purpose.
> Well, Chris made it an option, so none of these are valid excuses to me.
As i said in a previous post, these comments are not directed towards
rejecting the patch. they are directed towards explaining why it is not
a priority. i have niether the authority to accept or commit a patch
adding an option like this.
> I do agree 100% there is a need for a status system but I am not sure
> that one requires the other. In other words, this can be merged now and
> the status system limit.
> If you use the docklet applet, then you know you are away already. Or
> you can add yourself to your buddy list. Anything is worth this dumb
> box popping up.
apparently you did not read my comments all that closely. i said i am
not in gnome or kde, that i do not have the docklet.
> The box really is dumb. It is terrible UI. With all the stress GNOME
> is giving these days to sane design, this away dialog definitely should
> (at least optionally) go.
good ui is a very important thing, and in fact we are looking at gnome's
human interface guidelines and changing some things to meet them. in a
couple places this is causing alot of debate, some of us disagree with
but more importantly than this, at this point i want to stress that gaim
is NOT a gnome program. i am not sure if you are confused on this count
or not, and so i am stressing it because many people have been confused.
we use gtk. we have allowed people to optionally integrate more closely
with gnome in the paste, but you will notice that the current cvs has
removed all gnome specific code in favor of the freedesktop.org
environment-independent specifications. gnome is stressing ui design a
great deal. gaim is merely looking at it because the move to gtk2
requires so much of a re-write anyway that it happens to be a good time
to consider such issues.
> Please, maintainers? :)
I don't like trying to guess what sean or rob will try to do. all i can
say is that i can almost guarantee that sean at least probly hasn't
seriously looked at this patch because he's stuck on windows atm.
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