phpWebSite Content Management System

On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 10:05, Ulf Hallmann wrote:
> My basic motivation is that I am running a bunch of web sites based on
> phpws and that I would like to get my custom code supported. Well -
> you might say: That's what we all want.

Ulf,
This is why the phpwebsite-comm project was started. It provides a place
for community members to work on their ideas. It also provides a place
for the ASU team to review content for inclusion in phpwebsite releases.


> Multi-Language-Capability.

Most of the current functionality in phpwebsite is l10n. The underlying
support for i18n isn't implemented yet. i18n requires underlying
structure support from database, web server, php code, xhtml, and css to
function properly.

> 
> First, I think that things like 
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=958502&group_id=15539&atid=315539
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=942393&group_id=15539&atid=315539
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=942365&group_id=15539&atid=315539
> should make it into the supported code of related core mods. Secondly,
> I think that there should be a recommendation that phpws mods should
> be tested regarding their lang mod integratability, ideally related
> code would be already shipped with the mods and could be activated by
> a flag. I am offering to help coordinating this effort and to provide
> sort of I18N feedback to mod developers. If I knew who they are ....
> 
> ... - which brings me to the third activity I'd like to initiate: A
> more structured family of web sites where information like this can
> easily be found by the regular user. I think I am an experienced web
> user, but I often found myself lost in the large world of
> phpws-support-sites.

I'm going to setup a wiki (mediawiki) for phpwebsite-comm. I hope
everyone can contribute to the knowledge base.
> 
> I have been talking to Kenneth Poulsen about this (so far with no
> success - maybe my baby break is the reason). A key benefit is that
> this effort can leverage the multi-language activities that I
> described above: By providing one multi-lingual core site that uses
> great phpws features like branches etc. (1) to integrate other
> supported sites and (2) to show everybody out there the great things
> that can be done with a system that deserves to be the number one php
> framework in the world.

With your assistance we can work on this goal at phpwebsite-comm.

-- 
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http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/
SF.net Projects: ffl, leaf, phpwebsite, phpwebsite-comm, sitedocs

> To those of you who might have expecting me much earlier: Please
> excuse - I hope the birth of a daughter is reason enough to postpone a
> couple of hacking activities. ;)

We'll let it slide.

> My basic motivation is that I am running a bunch of web sites based on
> phpws and that I would like to get my custom code supported.

That's what you all want!

>  Well - you might say: That's what we all want.

oh... nevermind.

> Multi-Language-Capability.
> 
> Hold on. Doesn't phpws provide that with the language module? Yes, it
> does. But, despite the great documentation of this module, I think it
> is far too complicated for the regular user to integrate some
> important core modules (such as pagemaster).

You are being far too kind. The language support stinks.

> So what can be done?

Here is what _will_ be done in 0.9.4.

1) Language will not be handled by a module. It will be handled by PO
files: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html
PO files are widely used and there are several editors for them.

2) A i18n push. Before 0.9.4 comes out officially, we will ask
translators to try and use the po file format. Once the volunteers sign
off on it, we will work on creating a depository of translation files.

3) We will try and make sure that anglo-oriented functions like date()
are replaced with i18n friendly functions (like strftime() ).

> Secondly, I think that there should be a recommendation that phpws
> mods should be tested regarding their lang mod integratability,
> ideally related code would be already shipped with the mods and could
> be activated by a flag. I am offering to help coordinating this effort
> and to provide sort of I18N feedback to mod developers. If I knew who
> they are ....

I think that is sound. Once 0.9.4 comes out, I suggest a module page
that includes information on what version it is running, when the last
update was, and what languages it supports. 

> ... - which brings me to the third activity I'd like to initiate: A
> more structured family of web sites where information like this can
> easily be found by the regular user. I think I am an experienced web
> user, but I often found myself lost in the large world of
> phpws-support-sites.

I would like to see that as well. However, and this is not to slight you
Ulf, but there have been MANY people who have offered their help only to
quietly fade away. Some stick around (Mike, Kenneth, Don, Shaun, and
others I am leaving out) but most get busy with other things.

So, while I would welcome this level of support, it really is dependent
on the community. We help when we can, but we have to concentrate on
programming and, more importantly, our duty to the university (who pay
us). 

Welcome to the community, and we hope to hear more from you in the
future. I would also ask that you stay tuned for the 0.9.4 release so we
can make a smooth translation transition.

Best regards,
Matt

-- 
Matthew McNaney
Internet Systems Architect
Electronic Student Services
Appalachian State University
Phone: 828-262-6493
http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu
http://ess.appstate.edu

I have an interesting dilemma.  I have multiple sites as branch sites off 
of my hub code.  They are sharing the same textSettings.php it seems.  So 
there doesn't appear to be a way to customize the "censoring" and allowed 
tags for each branch.

I have one site: http://www.manlymen.org which has a little more "lenient" 
language restriction than http://www.bsacjc.org :))  I'd like to be able 
to customize these a little better.

Thanks for any input you can offer.

-Tony  

-- 
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Professional, affordable web design and hosting.
http://www.hteis.com/

> 1) Language will not be handled by a module. It will be handled by PO
> files: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html
> PO files are widely used and there are several editors for them.
>
> 2) A i18n push. Before 0.9.4 comes out officially, we will ask
> translators to try and use the po file format. Once the volunteers sign
> off on it, we will work on creating a depository of translation files.
>

Hi all, thanks Ulf you have been a great help to me lately.

With respect to 0.9.4 how will it then handel the dynamic content?  This
is a very import issue for me and my leave me behind at 0.9.3-3 for ever.

Just as background to what I'm up to.  I'm trying to get phpws used at my
work (Government of Canada) for several projects.  We've offer by law all
services to public servents and the public in both official languages. No
mixing of languages.

Thanks to the University and all of you for phpwebsite.

Fabio

Greg,

There may be a way to do this with some experimentation. There would be
a bit of code that needs written to grab request vars to see what theme
to display. I'm not so sure it wouldn't run slow as hell though, since
you'd be reloading all the layout vars in to the sessions every time a
page changed themes.

Wendall

On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 15:02, Greg Meiste wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>  
> I've got a client who wants to have a different look to a few sections
> of a website I'm helping create for them.  I had wanted to use
> phpwebsite for this site, but now I'm not sure if I can.  I had
> thought about using branches to achieve the multiple themes, but I
> don't think that's going to work because branches can't share data.
>  
> I remembered Wendall's W3C theme, but that appears to just change the
> stylesheet and not the layout.  (Yes, unfortunately, they want a
> layout change as well.)
>  
> Has anyone played around with this idea?  I don't know if I could do
> fancy things in the theme.php file to help achieve this for them.  I
> was just throwing this question out there to see if others have tried
> this or know of how this is possible.
>  
> I pretty sure you're going to tell me that I'm up a creek without a
> paddle, but I figured it's worth a shot.
>  
> Thanks in advance!
> Greg
> 
> 
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> I remembered Wendall's W3C theme, but that appears to just change the
> stylesheet and not the layout.  (Yes, unfortunately, they want a layout
> change as well.)

if your files are done right (no tables etc old skool stuff) you can
change a whole lot by just changing the stylesheet. see examples at
http://csszengarden.com/. but this requires quite a bit from the generated
html output.
>
> Has anyone played around with this idea?  I don't know if I could do
> fancy things in the theme.php file to help achieve this for them.  I was
> just throwing this question out there to see if others have tried this
> or know of how this is possible.

i hacked together an example where you would use a different theme based
on a module... but i am not sure if thats enough for you. basically just
before displaying the tpl file you have a switch based on the current
module to determine the right tpl file.

spiggy
-- 
Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire,
and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

Hi,

I have some questions:

1.- Does phpwebsite support sections for news???
2.- How can I display all news for one section??  (like phpnuke)

=========================================
Saludos,
Luis Sanchez Tapia.
M@...: lsanchez@...
      luissanchez@...
Cell: 97626928

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Greg Meiste <captainobvious1344@...>
To: phpwebsite-developers@...
Sent: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phpwebsite-developers] Multiple themes for one site

> Hello everyone,
>  
> I've got a client who wants to have a different look to a few 
> sections of a website I'm helping create for them.  I had wanted to 
> use phpwebsite for this site, but now I'm not sure if I can.  I had 
> thought about using branches to achieve the multiple themes, but I 
> don't think that's going to work because branches can't share data.
>  
> I remembered Wendall's W3C theme, but that appears to just change 
> the stylesheet and not the layout.  (Yes, unfortunately, they want a 
> layout change as well.)
>  
> Has anyone played around with this idea?  I don't know if I could do 
> fancy things in the theme.php file to help achieve this for them.  I 
> was just throwing this question out there to see if others have 
> tried this or know of how this is possible.
>  
> I pretty sure you're going to tell me that I'm up a creek without a 
> paddle, but I figured it's worth a shot.
>  
> Thanks in advance!
> Greg
> 
> 		
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I'd like to see your (or anybody else's) code example that switches the
theme based on the active module.  If you don't have a spot I can downloa=
d
it, could you please send it to me as an email attachment?

Thanks!

Greg

>
> i hacked together an example where you would use a different theme base=
d
> on a module... but i am not sure if thats enough for you. basically jus=
t
> before displaying the tpl file you have a switch based on the current
> module to determine the right tpl file.
>
> spiggy
> --
> Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire=
,
> and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)
>
>
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On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 18:02, Luis S=C3=A1nchez Tapia wrote:
> Hi,
> I have some questions:
> 1.- Does phpwebsite support sections for news???

Yes it does but phpWebSite calls them categories.  If you add categories
under the Fatcat administrator, these categories should then show up
when you are creating a new or editing an announcement.

> 2.- How can I display all news for one section??  (like phpnuke)

Go to the Menu Manager module and edit the menu you want to add the link
to.  Click the "Add Module Default" button.  Then select the dropdown
option which will add "Announcements" to your menu.  Finally name it and
choose where you want it to show.   This will give you a categorized
display of all the announcement.  Copy the individual links to show the
announcements for one category at a time.

--=20
Steven Levin
Computer Systems Admin I
Electronic Student Services
Appalachian State University
Phone: 828.262.6740
http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu

Hello all.

I have a quick question about templating.  I have a item class with a few
vars that are not required.  In that item class, I have a view function.=20
That view function sets up the tags then calls the process template
function.

Right now with those optional vars is that the label is showing but then
there is no data to show with it.  I set up my view.tpl to be like this:

<!-- BEGIN DATUM2 -->
{DATUM2_LABEL}:<br />
{DATUM2}<br /><br />
<!-- END DATUM2 -->

with Datum2 being an optional field.  Even set up like that, the label
still shows.  I was hoping that with it set up like that, the code chunk
wouldn't show even though the DATUM2_LABEL is present.  Am I going to hav=
e
to check every label before adding it to the tags?  [i.e.
if(isset(datum2))....]

I'm hoping there is a more "graceful" way that having an if statement for
all the variables (there is a lot of them).

I hope all that made sense.  Any thoughts anyone?

Thanks in advance.

Greg

Yes in my experience I've had to only conditionally define the label as
well.

Don.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 02:13:18PM -0500, Greg Meiste wrote:
> Hello all.
>=20
> I have a quick question about templating.  I have a item class with a few
> vars that are not required.  In that item class, I have a view function.=
=20
> That view function sets up the tags then calls the process template
> function.
>=20
> Right now with those optional vars is that the label is showing but then
> there is no data to show with it.  I set up my view.tpl to be like this:
>=20
> <!-- BEGIN DATUM2 -->
> {DATUM2_LABEL}:<br />
> {DATUM2}<br /><br />
> <!-- END DATUM2 -->
>=20
> with Datum2 being an optional field.  Even set up like that, the label
> still shows.  I was hoping that with it set up like that, the code chunk
> wouldn't show even though the DATUM2_LABEL is present.  Am I going to have
> to check every label before adding it to the tags?  [i.e.
> if(isset(datum2))....]
>=20
> I'm hoping there is a more "graceful" way that having an if statement for
> all the variables (there is a lot of them).
>=20
> I hope all that made sense.  Any thoughts anyone?
>=20
> Thanks in advance.
>=20
> Greg
>=20
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On Wed, 2004-06-23 at 02:38, Greg Morgan wrote:
> I've read the documentation on the item and manager class 
> http://res1.stddev.appstate.edu/horde/chora/co.php/phpwebsite/docs/developers/ITEM_MANAGER_README.txt?r=1.12. 
> 
> I also read the email messages title "Simple Module". I don't think I 
> have found an answer to my question.  If I have a code table and a table 
> that uses that code in a row, can I use these classes?  The idea would 
> be then I implement an Item class for the two tables and a Manager class 
> to manage them both.  Can I take these relationships as far as having 
> six to ten tables in my install.sql file?  Each would have an Item class 
> implemented with one manager class to manage all the items.  The gist of 
> these tables is a small relational database system.  Has someone created 
> a module like this where there might be some sample code to look at?

Greg,

  I would recommend using the Item class but not the Manager.   Instead
of Manager check out the List class in the core.   This class is much
easier to use and more flexible.   Write your own manager class which
will control all your lists and items.  You could even have one manager
that controls a bunch of sub-managers,  the are many possibile solutions
all depending on how you would like your code to be structured.  The
documents module implements both Item and List without extending the
core Manager class.  Altough it only implements 2 items you may be able
to get some ideas from it.  Hope this helps.  Feel free to email the
list with further questions.

-- 
Steven Levin
Computer Systems Admin I
Electronic Student Services
Appalachian State University
Phone: 828.262.6740
http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu

The index.php file in CVS was updated to fix this problem.  I noticed it
when I added a FAQ that ended in "0.9.3-3?".

Darren


> This was driving me nuts.  Whenever a form var contained the text "t?",
> like "what?", the "t?" was being replaced with "NOPHP" if it was sourced
> from $_REQUEST[].  If $_POST[] was used then the var was fine.
>
> Looks like this line in PHPWebSite's index.php is the culprit:
>
> $Value = eregi_replace("['<'|'%3C'|'<'|'<']+\?", "NOPHP", $Value);
>
> Looks like this needs to be fine tuned.  My form field didn't contain a
> "<" char at all, so this certainly shouldn't have been substituted.
>
> Don.
>
> --
> Reporter: "The European Union and Japan have filed a challenge in the WTO
>           (World Trade Organization) against a rule in the Agriculture
>           Appropriations bill that would allow steel companies to receive
>           money from antidumping duties."
>
> Bush: "Say again now?"
>
> George W. Bush
> December 22, 2000
> Spoken during a press conference held by the president-elect.
>

So 3? does it too?  I thought it was just "t?", I know that "s?" works
fine.

Alright I'll see if we can drop the new index.php into our -3 install
install.

Thanks,

Don.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 08:53:31AM -0400, Darren Greene wrote:
> The index.php file in CVS was updated to fix this problem.  I noticed it
> when I added a FAQ that ended in "0.9.3-3?".
>=20
> Darren
>=20
>=20
> > This was driving me nuts.  Whenever a form var contained the text "t?",
> > like "what?", the "t?" was being replaced with "NOPHP" if it was sourced
> > from $_REQUEST[].  If $_POST[] was used then the var was fine.
> >
> > Looks like this line in PHPWebSite's index.php is the culprit:
> >
> > $Value =3D eregi_replace("['<'|'%3C'|'<'|'<']+\?", "NOPHP", $Value);
> >
> > Looks like this needs to be fine tuned.  My form field didn't contain a
> > "<" char at all, so this certainly shouldn't have been substituted.
> >
> > Don.
> >
> > --
> > Reporter: "The European Union and Japan have filed a challenge in the W=
TO
> >           (World Trade Organization) against a rule in the Agriculture
> >           Appropriations bill that would allow steel companies to recei=
ve
> >           money from antidumping duties."
> >
> > Bush: "Say again now?"
> >
> > George W. Bush
> > December 22, 2000
> > Spoken during a press conference held by the president-elect.
> >
>=20
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Greg:

I've decided to switch my site from PHPWS to WebGUI.  After a lot of
fussing, I was able to do multiple columns and different themes per
page.  I still need to research the source code a bit to see why things
are now working.  It could be that the cache wasn't clearing too.

Their documentation is poor (Ruling WebGUI), but they promise it will
improve in July, when they add task orientated tutorials.  Of course, I
need to figure out the program before then!

In my case, I am mapping specialized html files (hierarchical templates)
to dreamweaver pages.  These themes and WebGUI will replace Contribute.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Schweisguth [mailto:michael@...] 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple themes for one site (Greg Meiste)

Right now, I am playing with webgui (plainback software) and it handles
this case out of the box, but I am still struggling to put editible
regions onto the page.

I think webgui has a better model, but I've only used it for a short
time.

The "contentEditible" system worked the fastest, and was simple.  It's
flaw: it applied the edits directly to the page rather than a database.

Good luck!