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On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Earnie Boyd wrote:
>
> >  o Resizing the MSYS terminal emulator (rxvt) window causes it to
> >    immediately hang.
>
> I only notice this if I'm in vim.  I can resize fine when sitting at the
> shell prompt.  Yes this needs looked at as well.

For me, this happens when I am sitting at the shell prompt.

> >  o It would be really cool if there was enough X11 run-time support
> >    provided with MSYS to display over the network (dual-console
> >    development is driving me batty).  It fails, saying
> >    that X11.dll is not available.  Is this X11 support available
> >    somewhere?
>
> It looks for the X11.dll if the DISPLAY variable is set.  Supposedly
> will execute on X for Win32, I've never tried, future versions of rxvt
> for MSYS may eliminate that.  Future versions of MSYS may eliminate rxvt
> if I ever have the round tuit time to Win32ize the callback methods of
> readline.

Why eliminate rxvt?  It seems tremendously nicer than the crummy
terminal that Cygwin brings up by default.  The X11-like cut and paste
is a joy.  The scollback-buffer is a joy. If X for Win32 is an option
with rxvt (and it can run without X11.dll), why eliminate that option?
It seems quite valuable to me.  I happen to have an X11.dll on hand.
Maybe it is compatible ...

A feature of Cygwin I really like is that I can run network servers so
that I can ssh or telnet into my Windows box to start X11 clients
(like xterm) and not have to be faced with the limitations of the
dreadful Windows user interface and forced to use a particular
keyboard & monitor.

Bob
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Bob Friesenhahn
bfriesen@...
http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen

On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Earnie Boyd wrote:
>
> It looks for the X11.dll if the DISPLAY variable is set.  Supposedly
> will execute on X for Win32, I've never tried, future versions of rxvt
> for MSYS may eliminate that.  Future versions of MSYS may eliminate rxvt

I copied the X11.dll I had on hand to libX11.dll and rxvt now works as
an X11 client!  Cool!  Unfortunately, I think it is consuming
excessive CPU when idling so perhaps there is something a bit wrong.

The libX11.dll is only 729K so maybe it is not too big to include with
MSYS?

Bob
======================================
Bob Friesenhahn
bfriesen@...
http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen

Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Earnie Boyd wrote:
> >
> > >  o Resizing the MSYS terminal emulator (rxvt) window causes it to
> > >    immediately hang.
> >
> > I only notice this if I'm in vim.  I can resize fine when sitting at the
> > shell prompt.  Yes this needs looked at as well.
> 
> For me, this happens when I am sitting at the shell prompt.
> 

What OS?

> > >  o It would be really cool if there was enough X11 run-time support
> > >    provided with MSYS to display over the network (dual-console
> > >    development is driving me batty).  It fails, saying
> > >    that X11.dll is not available.  Is this X11 support available
> > >    somewhere?
> >
> > It looks for the X11.dll if the DISPLAY variable is set.  Supposedly
> > will execute on X for Win32, I've never tried, future versions of rxvt
> > for MSYS may eliminate that.  Future versions of MSYS may eliminate rxvt
> > if I ever have the round tuit time to Win32ize the callback methods of
> > readline.
> 
> Why eliminate rxvt?  

It doesn't always perform well with Win32 native programs, E.G.: The MS
version of ftp.

> It seems tremendously nicer than the crummy
> terminal that Cygwin brings up by default.  The X11-like cut and paste
> is a joy.  The scollback-buffer is a joy. If X for Win32 is an option
> with rxvt (and it can run without X11.dll), why eliminate that option?
> It seems quite valuable to me.  I happen to have an X11.dll on hand.
> Maybe it is compatible ...
> 

I don't plan to remove the functionality.  That's why it's there to
begin with.  Couldn't live without it.

> A feature of Cygwin I really like is that I can run network servers so
> that I can ssh or telnet into my Windows box to start X11 clients
> (like xterm) and not have to be faced with the limitations of the
> dreadful Windows user interface and forced to use a particular
> keyboard & monitor.
> 

If it works fine, I'll leave it in but modify the result of not finding
it.  Since you like X on Win32 have you looked on
http://sources.redhat.com/win32-x11/ yet?  Based on the Web content it's
cygwinless, purely native and has hooks for building with MinGW.

Earnie.

On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Earnie Boyd wrote:

> Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Earnie Boyd wrote:
> > >
> > > >  o Resizing the MSYS terminal emulator (rxvt) window causes it to
> > > >    immediately hang.
> > >
> > > I only notice this if I'm in vim.  I can resize fine when sitting at the
> > > shell prompt.  Yes this needs looked at as well.
> >
> > For me, this happens when I am sitting at the shell prompt.
> >
>
> What OS?

Windows XP.

> If it works fine, I'll leave it in but modify the result of not finding
> it.  Since you like X on Win32 have you looked on

What would be the result of not finding it?  The current behavior
seems reasonable to me.  The result of not finding it should
definitely not be to display to the Windows console since that can be
most confusing if you are logged in remotely.

> http://sources.redhat.com/win32-x11/ yet?  Based on the Web content it's
> cygwinless, purely native and has hooks for building with MinGW.

I'll take a look.

Bob
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Bob Friesenhahn
bfriesen@...
http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen