Jython

Hi,

I've got a quick question (I hope) as a Jython newbie.   I'm using the 
Jython version bundled in the SuSE 9.2 Linux distro, of 2.2a0.   My 
problem seems to be almost touched on in a FAQ concerning differences 
between the os module in CPython and Jython, but not quite.  I'm going 
through the examples in the O'Reilly book ("Jython Essentials" by 
Pedroni and Rappin) and came across a small problem with their 
HtmlTreeParser example.  Specifically, there is an import urllib, which 
is then used in the line "connecton = urllib.urlopen(url)".  This 
results in the stack trace:

Traceback (innermost last):
  File "./html_source_view.py", line 127, in ?
  File "./html_source_view.py", line 119, in __init__
  File "/usr/share/jython/Lib/urllib.py", line 71, in urlopen
  File "/usr/share/jython/Lib/urllib.py", line 539, in __init__
  File "/usr/share/jython/Lib/urllib.py", line 102, in __init__
  File "/usr/share/jython/Lib/urllib.py", line 1224, in 
getproxies_environment
AttributeError: class 'org.python.modules.os' has no attribute 'environ'

In fact, when I import os and do a dir(os) I see only '__depends__' and 
'classDictInit' (compared with python which shows me everything 
including environ).    Am I missing something?  Perhaps SuSE didn't 
bundle jython correctly and I should just download the latest (or at 
least different) version?  Double checking that either jython.jar or 
jython-2.2.jar (both of which came with the distro) were in the exported 
CLASSPATH before starting the jython interpreter made no difference.   
If anybody could indicate the a good direction to take from here, I'd 
appreciate it.

Thanks,
Tim

Is there a straightforward method of listing the classes/interfaces 
present in a Java package, given an imported module?

I've looked at the  __dict__  keys but these include a few Jython-added 
keys as well, and don't know how to differentiate the Python keys from 
those imported from Java.

vis:

import javax.swing as pkg
for nme in pkg.__dict__.keys():
   print nme

But this includes things that aren't present in the JavaDocs, like 
__name__, text, table, tree, & etc.

Hope this helps the community.

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I am trying to use the google api (http://www.google.com/apis) in a
jython program.

I set my classpath to include googleapi.jar, which contains all the
classes I should need. I also used sys.path.append to MAKE SURE that the
.jar file was being read.

This is basically what happens:

> import com.google.soap.search as google
> print dir(google)
['GoogleAPIDemo', 'GoogleSearch', 'GoogleSearchDirectoryCategory'...]

> g = google.GoogleSearch()
AttributeError: java package 'com.google.soap.search' has no attribute
'GoogleSearch'

I have seen that the class GoogleSearch may need to be declared public but
I don't know if there's any way to get in there and monkey with the
classes since I didn't write them, I got them from google. Does anyone
have experience with this or can anyone suggest a solution?

TIA,
Andrea

I am using Grinder in windows XP for the first time and im getting
this error that i can't seem to solve.

*sys-package-mgr*: can't create package cache dir, ' c:\devTools\jython\cachedir
\packages'

i have all the appropriate permissions to be able to acces, read, and
write to the directory.

Any help understanding/solving this would be AWESOME!.

Thanks in advance. 

-- 
Mike
-------------------------
Work Hard, Play Harder.

I am using PythonInterpreter from my Java code. I load=20
up Jython scripts to perform ad hoc processors. The=20
scripts call methods from the java object I have exposed.
This all works fine.

I'm also using JEdit to edit the scripts before loading=20
them.

What I have tried to do is stub out the exposed java=20
methods in a new class and put this in the class path=20
for JEdit. What happens unfortunately is JEdit thinks=20
there is 1 more parameter then there is. I am using=20
method overloading. If I use a dummy for the extra=20
parameter it then works but gets an error back saying=20
that it cant be coerced. Has anyone seen this before?

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In article <423BEB12.8010006@...>,
 Adam Russell <rus20376@...> wrote:

> >Subject: [Jython-users] 
> >Hi Frank and others,
> >
> >I am one of the people working on the Coyote project. If you are
> >interested please check it out and file bug/RFEs for us. Be quick since
> >we are finalizing plans for Milestone 2 during the next week  ;-) 
> >
> >https://coyote.dev.java.net/
> >
> >Please make sure you have NetBeans 4.0 installed for the coyote
> >milestone 1 to work (the next milestone will work with 4.1).
> 
> 
> What is odd is that I recall jython working just fine in older versions of 
> netbeans. Back in 3.X where X <=5 ? In any event how is this project more 
> than just re-implementing what seems to have been simply removed from newer 
> releases?
> 
> 
> 
This will be the groundwork to let other dynamic languages to integrate 
with NB and not just Groovy or Jython.

Robert

I saw a thread on this dated 23sep 2001, where the solution given by 'rb' 
was:
jythonc --all --jar Hello.jar Hello.py

then adding Hello.jar to the applet tag. I successfully display the 
similar java applet written in java, but it just won't work for me 
and jython.
######################
My error is:

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/python/core/PyProxy
(...)
######################
the --all should've taken care of loading the classes shouldn't it? --core 
doesn't do it either. I have a big jython program which I want to put on 
my web page
Anyways, this is the inevidable "Hello World", which I use

###############################
from javax.swing import JApplet

class Hello(JApplet):
     def __init__(self):
         print 'constructor'
     def init(self):
         print 'init called'
     def stop(self):
         print 'stop'
     def paint(self,g):
         g.drawString("Hello from OM", 20,20)


################################

-OM

> I am using PythonInterpreter from my Java code. I load=20
> up Jython scripts to perform ad hoc processors. The=20
> scripts call methods from the java object I have exposed.
> This all works fine.
>=20
> Iam also using JEdit to edit the scripts before loading=20
> them.
>=20
> What I have tried to do is stub out the exposed java=20
> methods in a new class and put this in the class path=20
> for JEdit. What happens unfortunatly is JEdit thinks=20
> there is 1 more parameter then there is. I am using=20
> method overloading. If I use a dummy for the extra=20
> paramter it then works but gets an error back saying=20
> that it cant be coerced. Has anyone seen this before?
>=20

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I know you can effectively rename java classes by using 'import as', but 
is there also a way to rename all the stuff in the class?  We're working 
with a proprietary library, so I don't have access to the java source.

Hello

Recently, i attempted to install Jython 2.1 by typing "java -classpath C:\Python jython_21" and
going along with the default installation on Windows 2000 with Java 1.5.0_01.
Jython itsself *seems* to work.
But Jythonc returns the error shown below.

Ive also tried to install it onto Knoppix Linux 3.7 by typing "apt-get install jython".
Everything *seems* to work like it should on the Linux machine, except that it cannot find any of
the Jython modules e.g you cant import "java".
But you can import normal modules like "os".
And "locate applet.py" returns nothing.

Anyone have an idea as to why this dosnt work?

Thanks
Peter

    Traceback (innermost last):
      File "C:\Documents and Settings\peter\jython-2.1\Tools\jythonc\jythonc.py", li
    ne 4, in ?
      File "C:\Documents and Settings\peter\jython-2.1\Tools\jythonc\main.py", line
    70, in ?
      File "C:\Documents and Settings\peter\jython-2.1\Tools\jythonc\compile.py", li
    ne 8, in ?
    java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -4
            at org.python.core.imp.createFromPyClass(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.loadFromPath(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.loadFromPath(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.load(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.import_next(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.import_name(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.importName(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.ImportFunction.load(__builtin__.java)
            at org.python.core.ImportFunction.__call__(__builtin__.java)
            at org.python.core.PyObject.__call__(PyObject.java)
            at org.python.core.__builtin__.__import__(__builtin__.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.importFromAs(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.importFrom(imp.java)
            at compile$py.f$0(C:\Documents and Settings\peter\jython-2.1\Tools\jytho
    nc\compile.py:8)
            at compile$py.call_function(C:\Documents and Settings\peter\jython-2.1\T
    ools\jythonc\compile.py)
            at org.python.core.PyTableCode.call(PyTableCode.java)
            at org.python.core.PyCode.call(PyCode.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.createFromCode(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.createFromPyClass(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.loadFromPath(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.loadFromPath(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.load(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.import_next(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.import_name(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.importName(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.ImportFunction.load(__builtin__.java)
            at org.python.core.ImportFunction.__call__(__builtin__.java)
            at org.python.core.PyObject.__call__(PyObject.java)
            at org.python.core.__builtin__.__import__(__builtin__.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.importFromAs(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.importFrom(imp.java)
            at main$py.f$0(C:\Documents and Settings\peter\jython-2.1\Tools\jythonc\
    main.py:70)
            at main$py.call_function(C:\Documents and Settings\peter\jython-2.1\Tool
    s\jythonc\main.py)
            at org.python.core.PyTableCode.call(PyTableCode.java)
            at org.python.core.PyCode.call(PyCode.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.createFromCode(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.createFromPyClass(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.loadFromPath(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.loadFromPath(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.load(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.import_next(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.import_name(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.importName(imp.java)
            at org.python.core.ImportFunction.load(__builtin__.java)
            at org.python.core.ImportFunction.__call__(__builtin__.java)
            at org.python.core.PyObject.__call__(PyObject.java)
            at org.python.core.__builtin__.__import__(__builtin__.java)
            at org.python.core.imp.importOne(imp.java)
            at org.python.pycode._pyx0.f$0(C:\Documents and Settings\peter\jython-2.
    1\Tools\jythonc\jythonc.py:4)
            at org.python.pycode._pyx0.call_function(C:\Documents and Settings\peter
    \jython-2.1\Tools\jythonc\jythonc.py)
            at org.python.core.PyTableCode.call(PyTableCode.java)
            at org.python.core.PyCode.call(PyCode.java)
            at org.python.core.Py.runCode(Py.java)
            at org.python.core.__builtin__.execfile_flags(__builtin__.java)
            at org.python.util.PythonInterpreter.execfile(PythonInterpreter.java)
            at org.python.util.jython.main(jython.java)

    java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsExcepti
    on: -4



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Mitch Amiano asked:

 > Is there a straightforward method of listing the classes/interfaces
 > present in a Java package, given an imported module?
 >
 > I've looked at the  __dict__  keys but these include a few Jython-added
 > keys as well, and don't know how to differentiate the Python keys from
 > those imported from Java.
 >
 > vis:
 >
 > import javax.swing as pkg
 > for nme in pkg.__dict__.keys():
 >  print nme
 >
 > But this includes things that aren't present in the JavaDocs, like
 > __name__, text, table, tree, & etc.


Here's something that might be useful in at least identifying package 
elements vs. class elements.
Don't know if it is possible to determine interface vs. class though.
Usual caveats about lack of error detection and exception handling...

(remove the leading '+' chars from script lines,
 they are there only there so that proper indentation is preserved...)


-------- file jpi.py --------

##############################################################################
#
#  jpi -- Java Package Information
#
#         given a Java package identifier (java, java.util, javax.servlet),
#         list the subpackages in the named package and all the
#         classes in the package
#
#         Uses dir(), getattr() and type() to make the determination
#
#         Differentiating interfaces from classes is *not* attempted.
#
##############################################################################

import sys

##############################################################################

OPC = 'org.python.core.Py'

PY_STRING    = '%sString'      % OPC
JAVA_PACKAGE = '%sJavaPackage' % OPC
JAVA_CLASS   = '%sJavaClass'   % OPC

########################################################################

def main(target):

+    print "target: %s" % target
+    javaPackages, javaClasses = packageElements(target)
+
+    for jp in javaPackages:
+        print "%-32.32s : JavaPackage" % jp
+
+    print " "
+
+    for jc in javaClasses:
+        print "%-32.32s : JavaClass" % jc

##############################################################################

def packageElements(target):
+    """
+        Given a dot separated string representing a Java package name
+        determine the sub-packages and classes that exist in that
+        target package.
+
+        Return back two lists:
+            1) list of package names in the target
+            2) list of class   names in the target
+    """
+
+    targetComponents = target.split('.')
+    base = targetComponents[0]
+    baseMod = __import__(base, globals(), locals())
+
+##    print dir(baseMod)
+
+    mod = baseMod    # we will reassign mod value repeatedly in for loop
+    for comp in targetComponents[1:]:
+        mod = getattr(mod, comp)
+
+    elements = dir(mod)
+#    for element in elements:
+#        ts = str(type(getattr(mod, element)))
+#        if ts.find(PY_STRING) < 0:
+#            print "%-32.32s  : %s" % (element, ts.replace(OPC, ''))
+
+    javaPackages = [el for el in elements
+                    if str(type(getattr(mod, el))).find(JAVA_PACKAGE) 
 >= 0 ]
+
+    javaClasses = [el for el in elements
+                    if str(type(getattr(mod, el))).find(JAVA_CLASS) >= 0 ]
+
+
+    return javaPackages, javaClasses

###################################################################################
###################################################################################

if __name__ == '__main__':
+    main(sys.argv[1])

---------  end of script jpi.py ------

Yes, I have "language" spelled correctly in code.  I just typed this
message...not copy from code.

Thanks for your help though.

Take care

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From: jython-users-admin@...
[mailto:jython-users-admin@...] On Behalf Of Bellave
Jayaram
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:15 PM
To: jython-users@...
Subject: [Jython-users] Re: Jython-users digest, Vol 1 #1358 - 4 msgs

j

>--__--__--
>
>Message: 2
>From: "Josh Juneau" <juneau@...>
>To: <jython-users@...>
>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:25:45 -0600
>Subject: [Jython-users] Does BSF Work
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
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>	charset="us-ascii"
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>
>I am attempting to use the Bean Scripting Framework within a test
>application so that I can utilize Jython within my JSP pages.  Has anyone
>done this in the past?  If so, I am not quite sure what I am missing at
this
>point.  I've got the bsf.jar file in the WEB-INF/lib directory and the page
>will not work.  I am getting an error to let me know that the "language" is
>invalid.  It is obviously squawking at the page directive <%@page
>lanugage="jython" %> .
>
> 
>  
>
Josh,
   
Did you check the spelling? You have lanugage instead of language.

Jayaram

>Josh 
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>Message: 2
>From: "Josh Juneau" <juneau@...>
>To: <jython-users@...>
>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:25:45 -0600
>Subject: [Jython-users] Does BSF Work
>
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>	charset="us-ascii"
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>
>I am attempting to use the Bean Scripting Framework within a test
>application so that I can utilize Jython within my JSP pages.  Has anyone
>done this in the past?  If so, I am not quite sure what I am missing at this
>point.  I've got the bsf.jar file in the WEB-INF/lib directory and the page
>will not work.  I am getting an error to let me know that the "language" is
>invalid.  It is obviously squawking at the page directive <%@page
>lanugage="jython" %> .
>
> 
>  
>
Josh,
   
Did you check the spelling? You have lanugage instead of language.

Jayaram

>Josh 
>
> 
>
>  
>

Test you java with Jython, and non java code with python, and
see them as Junit Tests inside Eclipse. That accelerates your
dev process a lot if you use the ContinuousTesting plugin.

http://lauploix.blogspot.com/2005/03/test-driven-development-why-using.ht=
ml

Hope this helps. If not, sorry.

> Only by exercising the code you will find "silly" problems
as you call
> them, so try to unit test as much of your code and your
problem is gone.
> 
> Regards
> RR
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jython-users-admin@... 
> > [mailto:jython-users-admin@...] On Behalf 
> > Of Todd Moyer
> > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:49 PM
> > To: Edward Povazan
> > Cc: jython-users
> > Subject: Re: [Jython-users] PyLint type tools?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You've got a point there, Edward.  Coverage in interpreted 
> > languages is 
> > an issue.  As an experiment you may want to try compiling 
> > with jythonc 
> > to see if that catches any of these.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Todd Moyer
> > 
> > 
> > Edward Povazan wrote:
> > 
> > > The problem is that sometimes an error is not found until 
> > much later.
> > > For example in some GUI code I wrote, only when I dragged 
> > in a specific 
> > > way did an 'if' statement run, and then die because I
forgot 'self'.
> > > 
> > > There seem to be so may tools for CPython, I am just 
> > surprized not to
> > > see any for Jython. So I just want something to find most 
> > of the silly 
> > > errors in one pass, instead of having to run several 
> > iterations of run, 
> > > correct, run, correct. Maybe I have been using Java and an 
> > IDE too long :)
> > > 
> > > -Edward Povazan
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Todd Moyer wrote:
> > > 
> > >>
> > >> I don't understand what a lint tool would buy you that the
> > >> interpreter/compiler doesn't already do for you.  The
errors you 
> > >> mention  would be found very quickly by running the code.  
> > And since 
> > >> you can run it without compiling, the cost is near zero
in time or 
> > >> bother.
> > >>
> > >> I've found a self test at the bottom of a class ("if
__name__ =3D=3D
> > >> '__main__':") is often worth the effort.  Not only does it 
> > provide a 
> > >> quick unit test, but it's also a great place to document 
> > some sample 
> > >> usage while the rationale for the class is fresh in your 
> > mind.  At a 
> > >> minimum, just instantiating the class gives a quick
syntax check.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Todd Moyer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Edward Povazan wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello,
> > >>>
> > >>> After a long break I started using Jython again. It is
a little
> > >>> frustrating - my code is more compact, cleaner, easier to 
> > understand. 
> > >>> However I am spending too much time when running things 
> > correcting 
> > >>> silly problems. The main ones are:
> > >>> -forgotten imports
> > >>> -forgotten self in self.instanceVarName
> > >>> -forgotten self in method def
> > >>> -accessing fields that don't exist
> > >>>
> > >>> After searching about, I still haven't found any tools to 
> > help find
> > >>> these before I run the program. PyChecker is CPython 
> > only, PyLint - I 
> > >>> don't know about it, can't find much info about it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Are there any lint like tools for Jython? If not,
where would be a
> > >>> good place to start. I am guessing implementing a custom 
> > Visitor.java.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> -Edward Povazan
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I am attempting to use the Bean Scripting Framework within a test
application so that I can utilize Jython within my JSP pages.  Has anyone
done this in the past?  If so, I am not quite sure what I am missing at this
point.  I've got the bsf.jar file in the WEB-INF/lib directory and the page
will not work.  I am getting an error to let me know that the "language" is
invalid.  It is obviously squawking at the page directive <%@page
lanugage="jython" %> .

 

What is incorrect about my setup?

 

Thanks in advance-

 

Josh

I don't understand what a lint tool would buy you that the 
interpreter/compiler doesn't already do for you.  The errors you mention 
  would be found very quickly by running the code.  And since you can 
run it without compiling, the cost is near zero in time or bother.

I've found a self test at the bottom of a class ("if __name__ == 
'__main__':") is often worth the effort.  Not only does it provide a 
quick unit test, but it's also a great place to document some sample 
usage while the rationale for the class is fresh in your mind.  At a 
minimum, just instantiating the class gives a quick syntax check.

Cheers,
Todd Moyer


Edward Povazan wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> After a long break I started using Jython again. It is a little 
> frustrating - my code is more compact, cleaner, easier to understand. 
> However I am spending too much time when running things correcting silly 
> problems. The main ones are:
> -forgotten imports
> -forgotten self in self.instanceVarName
> -forgotten self in method def
> -accessing fields that don't exist
> 
> After searching about, I still haven't found any tools to help find 
> these before I run the program. PyChecker is CPython only, PyLint - I 
> don't know about it, can't find much info about it.
> 
> Are there any lint like tools for Jython? If not, where would be a good 
> place to start. I am guessing implementing a custom Visitor.java.
> 
> Thanks
> -Edward Povazan
> 
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I spent a bit of time digging into the Jython source to see if there was 
an obvious explanation.  It seems about 75% of the time with "print 
 >>output" is related to the FixedFileWrapper that the output file is 
wrapped in for every print call.  Just as an experiment, I tried 
allowing the file to default to stdout, as in "print 'test'", 
significantly reducing the time.  It is still a lot slower than 
"output.write ('test')" though.  Interesting find, Kent.

As far as writing critical code in Java, it's a nice option to have. 
However, I rarely find I need to resort to it.  Because I can write 
Jython much faster than Java, I find spending some of that saved time 
tuning the algoriths nearly always yields acceptable performance. 
Careless algoritms can sink code written in any language, and often does.

Cheers,
Todd Moyer


Alex Greif wrote:

> As I understand the Jython philosophy, performance critical parts
> should be better implemented in java.
> 
> Alex.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:43:07 -0800 (PST), Patrick Chamberlain
> <patrickchamberlain@...> wrote:
> 
>>I've seen that before. I think it's a known bug.
>>
>>The workaround I use is to use a Java way to print
>>instead such as a FileOutputStream.
>>
>>Patrick
>>--- Kent Johnson <kent37@...> wrote:
>>
>>>I just tracked down a huge performance problem in my
>>>app to use of print >> output. My program was
>>>taking five seconds to output a 200 line, 5Kb file
>>>(ouch!)
>>>
>>>Here is a program that shows the problem:
>>>
>>># FileWriteTest.py
>>>from java.lang.System import currentTimeMillis
>>>
>>>start = currentTimeMillis()
>>>
>>>output = open('junk1', 'w')
>>>for i in range(100):
>>>     print >>output, 'test'
>>>output.close()
>>>
>>>elapsed = currentTimeMillis() - start
>>>print 'Using print >>', elapsed
>>>
>>>start = currentTimeMillis()
>>>
>>>output = open('junk2', 'w')
>>>for i in range(100):
>>>     output.write('test')
>>>     output.write('\n')
>>>output.close()
>>>
>>>elapsed = currentTimeMillis() - start
>>>print 'Using write   ', elapsed
>>>
>>>###
>>>
>>>On my computer the output is
>>>Using print >> 1382
>>>Using write    30
>>>
>>>so output using print >> takes about 40 times as
>>>long as the same thing with write()!
>>>
>>>I'm not going to take this any further, I'm
>>>reporting it to help others avoid the same hole, and
>>>in
>>>hopes that someone might fix this going forward :-)
>>>
>>>Kent
>>>
>>>
>>>
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