Ok guys, put them back in your pants. The great thing about jEdit is we can
all use it regardless of whether one is running Windows, Linux, Solaris,
AIX, or OS/2. We need to support each other as Java users, not fight over
which platform we are using. If you want OS wars, go to the Usenet advocacy
groups, there are plenty of OS wars waging there.
Jim Urban
PS; My apologies to anyone offended by my opening remark.
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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:12 PM
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Subject: OT: Debate on office tools (was:[ jEdit-users ] Alert:
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> i don't have very demanding needs in this arena, but there is a spate of
> good free software for performing these tasks (except presentations,
> though i think that HTML or the DocBook slides DTD are fine for these
> needs).
I guess it depends on what your needs are. I have very demanding needs.
> and please don't try to tell me that Word is the right tool for document
> creation. it is a monstrosity in almost every way possible.
Well, I guess we can agree to differ ;) I tried many of the *nix tools when
I came to write my PhD thesis. None of them came close to offering the
functionality I needed. Document creation for me doesn't just mean text
manipulation. I needed integrated diagramming tools, charting, an equation
editor, spreadsheets, automatic reference management, etc, etc.
And that's just the big stuff, when it actually comes to text creation
and manipulation, the facilities offered by Word (drag and drop,
multi-object clipboard, integrated annotating, change management,
in place editing of embedded objects, to name a few) far outclass what
OSS has to offer.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy about it. That was just the reality.
> WYSIWYG my ass.
I guess it's like anything. When you really know how to use something you
can get the best out of it. Word isn't just a tool for producing short 2-3
pagers,
it's a programmable environment for document creation and management.
The office suite as a whole doesn't really have any competition when you
need
all of the tools it offers.
Did I mention compatibility with my colleagues was also a requirement ;)
Todd
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