The difference between creating and editing can be somehow seen from the
video [1]. If it can not be seen, I believe it's fairly easy to see what did
I mean, and one can try the same. I think the difference it noticeably. In
creating mode the snapping is somehow more responsive. Weight was always set
to 0.
Now I see the problem with guides and grid and toggles. However, since I
come more from a CAD world, I'm used of snapping to whatever is visible.
Hence, if there are 2 grids turned on, I would expect to snap to both. This
would than mean 2 more toggles. If you see grid/guides it snaps, otherwise
not. The snapping toolbar would than look like [2].
[1] http://www.shrani.si/?1h/sw/4V87HeE4/creatingediting.avi
[2] http://www.shrani.si/f/2v/4s/1CfzWQLW/toolbar.png
Anyway, thanks for the answer and additional explanation.
Rok
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Diederik van Lierop <mail@...:
> On 01/15/2009 08:56 PM, Rock Star wrote:
>
>> 1) How come that snapping behavior is much better when drawing new things
>> than when editing existing paths/objects, i.e. moving nodes, paths, objects
>> etc. Snapping while editing seams more like old snapping behavior, i.e.
>> before adding weight factor. It would be cool if snapping behavior would be
>> the same in both modes (using a new one of course :))
>>
>
> I don't understand what you're trying to explain here. What exactly is
> better when drawing new things? When drawing there's only one point to snap,
> whereas when for example translating there will be more, and it will
> therefore be harder to predict which point will snap. Is that what you're
> seeing?
>
>> 2) There are no icons for snap to grid and snap to guides. Is this
>> intentionally or they are simply not added yet? I believe adding those would
>> be good as well.
>>
>
> The problems is that we would get many toggles in series that should all be
> enabled to allow snapping to a grid:
> 1) the global snapping toggle
> 2) the GLOBAL grid snapping toggle
> 3) the PER-GRID snapping toggle (see the grids tab in the document
> properties toggle)
> 4) and finally the snap bounding box corners toggle or the snap nodes
> toggle
>
> It is just too easy to overlook one, which would lead to confused users...
> So every toggle we add makes things more complex. You can toggle snapping to
> a grid on a per-grid basis already, but you would have to open the
> document-properties dialog. If we add a global GRID snapping toggle, we
> should IMHO get rid of the PER-GRID toggle. Who invented using multiple
> grids simultaneously anyway? ;-) (rhetoric question!). Anyway, we shouldn't
> implement both 2) and 3).
>
> 3) Maybe it would be better to separate toolbar in 3 sections, like a)
>> toggle all snapping, b) what snaps and c) what does it snap to. Anyway, this
>> is only a thought.
>>
>
> It's already like that, more or less. With the distinction that bounding
> boxes can only snap to bounding boxes, and nodes can only snap to
> paths/nodes. We don't want to combine these buttons all together in one
> single "what snaps" group and one single "what does it snap to" group,
> because we shouldn't snap bounding box corners to paths, or nodes to
> bounding boxes. If you want to know why then have a look at the attached
> document. I've made this proposal a long time ago so it's not completely
> accurate any longer, but it will explain my point.
>
> Diederik
>
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