Fluxbox

Re your xterm query,  I would suggest altering the menu file, and adding 
appropriate command-line arguments for xterm, like "xterm -geometry 
80x54+0+0".

-- 
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(john@...)

On Friday 27 Sep 2002 4:03 pm, Mark Knecht spewed forth thus:
> Hi,
>    I've been up and running with fluxbox now for about a week. I got
> started because of problems with Gnome and real-time applications, which
> fluxbox solved nicely. I like fluxbox a lot so far and now want to
> customize if a bit.
>
> Two questions:
>
> Q1:
>
>    Looking at the F1 console, I noticed a message about .fluxbox/styles not
> existing, so I created that and moved a custom style that I had put in
> /usr/local/share/fluxbox/styles. That solved that message. I am, however,
> still getting a message in the console
>
> Faild to load groupfile:
>
>    What's that about?
>
> Q2: How can I change the default font size and window size for the xterm in
> the menu?
>
>
>    I've got a few more questions, but possibly I can solve those silently
> after learning a bit more from this round.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
>
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[Mark Knecht - Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:11:27 AM CDT]
>    Looking at the F1 console, I noticed a message about .fluxbox/styles not
> existing, so I created that and moved a custom style that I had put in
> /usr/local/share/fluxbox/styles. That solved that message. I am, however,
> still getting a message in the console
> 
> Faild to load groupfile:
> 
>    What's that about?

The group file field in .fluxbox/init is, by default, blank.  But if you
have a group file, it defines window classes for auto-tab-grouping.
The documentation on http://fluxbox.sf.net has a guide to this and more.


> Q2: How can I change the default font size and window size for the xterm in
> the menu?

Edit your ~/.Xdefaults file.  (It's an ancient X thing.)  You probably
want at least the following entries:

 XTerm*font: <whatever font you want, should be a monospaced>
 XTerm*geometry: <width in characters, *not* pixels>x<height in characters>

To see what else you can set, find the app defaults file for xterm.  It
should be under some directory in /usr/X11 or /usr/X11R6, or in /etc/X11
(if you're on Debian Linux) and called XTerm.

After you edit your .Xdefaults, you need to run 

 xrdb merge .Xdefaults

to get the changes to affect the rest of your X session.  You should
probably put the same line in your .xsession or .xinitrc file so you
don't have to do it every time you log in.

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Ava,
   Great info! Thanks!

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: fluxbox-users-admin@...
[mailto:fluxbox-users-admin@... Behalf Of Ava
Arachne Jarvis
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 5:18 PM
To: Fluxbox-Users (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Fluxbox-users] (newbie) - groupfile & font sizes


[Mark Knecht - Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:11:27 AM CDT]
>    Looking at the F1 console, I noticed a message about .fluxbox/styles
not
> existing, so I created that and moved a custom style that I had put in
> /usr/local/share/fluxbox/styles. That solved that message. I am, however,
> still getting a message in the console
>
> Faild to load groupfile:
>
>    What's that about?

The group file field in .fluxbox/init is, by default, blank.  But if you
have a group file, it defines window classes for auto-tab-grouping.
The documentation on http://fluxbox.sf.net has a guide to this and more.


> Q2: How can I change the default font size and window size for the xterm
in
> the menu?

Edit your ~/.Xdefaults file.  (It's an ancient X thing.)  You probably
want at least the following entries:

 XTerm*font: <whatever font you want, should be a monospaced>
 XTerm*geometry: <width in characters, *not* pixels>x<height in characters>

To see what else you can set, find the app defaults file for xterm.  It
should be under some directory in /usr/X11 or /usr/X11R6, or in /etc/X11
(if you're on Debian Linux) and called XTerm.

After you edit your .Xdefaults, you need to run

 xrdb merge .Xdefaults

to get the changes to affect the rest of your X session.  You should
probably put the same line in your .xsession or .xinitrc file so you
don't have to do it every time you log in.

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Well.. after using it for a couple of days I can tell that I really like
features that 'Remember Patch' has to offer.

However it's kinda buggy (especially if you disable tabs and you want
only certain apps to have them (xterms) - to crush it just try to move
tabs around).

I think the reason this patch was not merged yet is that Fluxbox is
going to have session management soon )and such features will be a part
of SM). 

We would have to ask Henrik what he thinks about it and when we can
expect session management in Fluxbox.

But having this patch on the site to download is a good idea.

I will put it on the download page, under 'Patches' section.


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Dear Oliwier aLEczapKA,

Fyi, the patch published on the official website contains diff (-N) for
temp (*~) files, so it's big for nothing.

Nobody told me (before you in this mail) about crushes, so i'll try to
fix that.

I chatted with fluxgen 2 months ago about my patch and he found that my
coding style wasn't that good (i agree). he gave me hints on how to do
better but i hadn't time since that chat to make desired improvements on
the code. Beside that, I discovered "devilspie"
(http://www.burtonini.com/computing/devilspie-0.2.tar.gz) which does the
same job but surely better. One fluxbox-user told me it didn't work with
fluxbox. It is currently done for metacity. Maybe would it be more
interesting to have fluxbox compatible with devilspie than to integrate
my patch ? I don't know...

Regards,
Xavier

On Sun, 2002-09-29 at 16:15, Oliwier 'aLEczapKA' Ptak wrote:
> Well.. after using it for a couple of days I can tell that I really like
> features that 'Remember Patch' has to offer.
> 
> However it's kinda buggy (especially if you disable tabs and you want
> only certain apps to have them (xterms) - to crush it just try to move
> tabs around).
> 
> I think the reason this patch was not merged yet is that Fluxbox is
> going to have session management soon )and such features will be a part
> of SM). 
> 
> We would have to ask Henrik what he thinks about it and when we can
> expect session management in Fluxbox.
> 
> But having this patch on the site to download is a good idea.
> 
> I will put it on the download page, under 'Patches' section.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards
> aLEczapKA
> aleczapka at gmx dot net
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I'm not aware of any particular way to do so, but if you press and
hold Alt button, then you can resize your windows from any place within the
window, the same is true for dragging windows, in this case use
Alt + Left Mouse Button

-Serge

Hi!

On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:18:30 +0100
John Spray <john@...> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a way to configure fluxbox to allow windows to be
> resized from somewhere other than their bottoms?  I find it
> problematic when a program starts up larger than my screen for some
> reason.

Try pressing Alt and your left mouse button. Now you can move the window
around until you see the resizing buttons.

HTH, Hendrik

-- 
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drag me, drop me - treat me like an object

Serge Boiko wrote:

>I'm not aware of any particular way to do so, but if you press and
>hold Alt button, then you can resize your windows from any place within the
>window, the same is true for dragging windows, in this case use
>Alt + Left Mouse Button
>
This is how it works on my system (slackware 8.0) (guess you meant Alt + 
Right mouse button ..)

Holding down Alt + Left Mouse Button = move window (doesn't matter where 
you click on the window)
Holding down Alt + Rigth Mouse Button = resize window (doen't matter 
where you click on the window)

>-Serge
>
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>
Regards,
 
  Eric

LETue, 17 Sep 2002 15:21:02 +0300
"Sergey V. Leschenko" <sm@...> a =E9crit :

> Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> > > If it compiles and passes my initial tests, I'll send a patch for
> > > 0.1.12 to the list.
> >=20
> > Okay, it doesn't quite compile:
>=20
>=20
> check it - it's Xavier's patch for 0.1.11, but=20
> can be applied for 0.1.12 without any changes.=20
> I'm using it now   :)
Thanks very much, It work great for me too :o)
Is there a reason this functionality isn't in the official release ?
cause it was, IMHO, the only thing lacking in fluxbox.>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Best regards,
> Sergey
>=20


--=20
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Hi

I still can't compile it, I was able to patch the sources (with
remeber-0.1.11-final), however I was stuck in the same place, as now
when I use your tarball.

Here is the error

cd .. && \ 
  automake-1.6 --gnu  src/Makefile
  cd .. && /bin/sh ./config.status src/Makefile depfiles
  config.status: creating src/Makefile
  config.status: executing depfiles commands
  make[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src'
  make[2]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src'
  Makefile:251: .deps/Application.Po: No such file or directory
  make[2]: *** No rule to make target `.deps/Application.Po'.  Stop.
  make[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src'
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 
  make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember'
  make: *** [all] Error 2 

After adding Application.Po in src/.deps/ (just copy from Tabs.Po - they
are all the same)

Making all in src
/home/users/aleczapka/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src
make[2]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src'
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `Application.', needed by
`fluxbox'.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember'
make: *** [all] Error 2 

Another thing is that I have automake 1.5 and I had to sed the Makefiles
to remove automake-1.6.. later I just symlinked it, cause I thought it
could make the error, however without success.. still can't compile it.

My System
gcc 2.95.3
glibc-2.2.5
Slackware 8.1
XFree 4.2.0

Hope somebody could help.

TIA

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It is VERY impolite to attach a 500k attachment in your email; on my
dialup connection, it took me over 4 minutes just to get your message.
(The lines in my area are bad, so I get something like a 14.4 connection
even on my 56k modem. :/ ) In the future, if you have anything larger
than 10-20k, you should put it up on the web somewhere and post a link.

To make a patch, just do this: (assuming fluxbox-orig is the unmodified
fluxbox tree, and fluxbox-mod is your own modified tree)

diff -urN fluxbox-orig/ fluxbox-mod/ | bzip2 -c > patch-descr.bz2

17 Sep 2002 09:31:13 +0100: MAL (MAL <mal@...>):

> Hey mate, I managed to patch it, (patched source attached).
> 
> Been using this patch on each version since it came out.  It makes
> fluxbox into what I want in a window manager.
> 
> I'll learn how to generate patches, then try to release a patch for
> each future version of Fluxbox.
> 
> MAL

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Is there a way to map a keyboard shortcut to this remember feature.
I don't have a titlebar on some of my windows, but I want them to remembe=
r
their sticky state or size or dimensions.=20

Something like this:

Mod1 r :Remember something???

Thanks,

Alex

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:51:30 +0200
Cyrille Mars <webmaster.pucbr@...> wrote:

> LETue, 17 Sep 2002 15:21:02 +0300
> "Sergey V. Leschenko" <sm@...> a =E9crit :
>=20
> > Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> > > > If it compiles and passes my initial tests, I'll send a patch for
> > > > 0.1.12 to the list.
> > >=20
> > > Okay, it doesn't quite compile:
> >=20
> >=20
> > check it - it's Xavier's patch for 0.1.11, but=20
> > can be applied for 0.1.12 without any changes.=20
> > I'm using it now   :)
> Thanks very much, It work great for me too :o)
> Is there a reason this functionality isn't in the official release ?
> cause it was, IMHO, the only thing lacking in fluxbox.>=20
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Best regards,
> > Sergey
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Cyrille Mars [cmars@...]
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>=20
>=20
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>=20


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 Director of Development
 Sputnik Designs Group
 Office: 408-404-7013 x5
 http://sputnikdesigns.com

Well a little cheat I use.. set up a keyboard shortcut for ToggleDecor,
then right click on a window's titlebar so the menu pops up.. do the
toggle decor keypress to remove the titlebar, then select the remember
Decoration state from the menu, which will not have disappeared :)

MAL



On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 17:53, Alex Pachikov wrote:
>=20
> Is there a way to map a keyboard shortcut to this remember feature.
> I don't have a titlebar on some of my windows, but I want them to remembe=
r
> their sticky state or size or dimensions.=20
>=20
> Something like this:
>=20
> Mod1 r :Remember something???
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Alex
>=20
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:51:30 +0200
> Cyrille Mars <webmaster.pucbr@...> wrote:
>=20
> > LETue, 17 Sep 2002 15:21:02 +0300
> > "Sergey V. Leschenko" <sm@...> a =E9crit :
> >=20
> > > Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> > > > > If it compiles and passes my initial tests, I'll send a patch for
> > > > > 0.1.12 to the list.
> > > >=20
> > > > Okay, it doesn't quite compile:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > check it - it's Xavier's patch for 0.1.11, but=20
> > > can be applied for 0.1.12 without any changes.=20
> > > I'm using it now   :)
> > Thanks very much, It work great for me too :o)
> > Is there a reason this functionality isn't in the official release ?
> > cause it was, IMHO, the only thing lacking in fluxbox.>=20
> > >=20
> > > --=20
> > > Best regards,
> > > Sergey
> > >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Cyrille Mars [cmars@...]
> > ->ICQ    : 135522957
> > ->Jabber : exajerator@...
> > ->MSN    : hyperbolator@...
> >=20
> >=20
> > -------------------------------------------------------
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> > Open Source & Linux Developers, register now for the AMD Developer=20
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> > Fluxbox-users@...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fluxbox-users
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
>=20
>  Alex Pachikov
>  Director of Development
>  Sputnik Designs Group
>  Office: 408-404-7013 x5
>  http://sputnikdesigns.com
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Thx, it helped. :)

It compiles, however now I get parse error... 
Windowmenu.cc:111: `WindowmenuRemember' undeclared (first use this
function)


g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..   -Wall
-DLOCALEPATH=\"/opt/fluxbox/share/fluxbox/nls\"
-DDEFAULTMENU=\"/opt/fluxbox/share/fluxbox/menu\"
-DDEFAULTSTYLE=\"/opt/fluxbox/share/fluxbox/styles/Clean\"
-DDEFAULTKEYSFILE=\"/opt/fluxbox/share/fluxbox/keys\"
-DDEFAULT_INITFILE=\"/opt/fluxbox/share/fluxbox/init\"  -O3 -mcpu=i686
-march=i686  -I/usr/X11R6/include -DSHAPE -DSLIT  -DINTERLACE  -DDEBUG
-fno-inline  -DTIMEDCACHE -DKDE -DGNOME  -c -o Windowmenu.o `test -f
Windowmenu.cc || echo './'`Windowmenu.cc
Windowmenu.cc: In method `Windowmenu::Windowmenu(FluxboxWindow *)':
Windowmenu.cc:111: `WindowmenuRemember' undeclared (first use this
function)
... etc...



It's because I used --disable-nls in configure... when I skip this
option everything works fine.. 

Guess somebody should fix it :>


On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 10:27, MAL wrote:
> I had to do an 'aclocal && automake && autoconf' before it would
> compile... I'm using automake-1.4p5 !
> 
> MAL
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 19:46, Oliwier 'aLEczapKA' Ptak wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I still can't compile it, I was able to patch the sources (with
> > remeber-0.1.11-final), however I was stuck in the same place, as now
> > when I use your tarball.
> > 
> > Here is the error
> > 
> > cd .. && \ 
> >   automake-1.6 --gnu  src/Makefile
> >   cd .. && /bin/sh ./config.status src/Makefile depfiles
> >   config.status: creating src/Makefile
> >   config.status: executing depfiles commands
> >   make[2]: Leaving directory
> > `/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src'
> >   make[2]: Entering directory
> > `/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src'
> >   Makefile:251: .deps/Application.Po: No such file or directory
> >   make[2]: *** No rule to make target `.deps/Application.Po'.  Stop.
> >   make[2]: Leaving directory
> > `/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src'
> >   make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 
> >   make[1]: Leaving directory
> > `/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember'
> >   make: *** [all] Error 2 
> > 
> > After adding Application.Po in src/.deps/ (just copy from Tabs.Po - they
> > are all the same)
> > 
> > Making all in src
> > /home/users/aleczapka/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src
> > make[2]: Entering directory
> > `/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src'
> > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `Application.', needed by
> > `fluxbox'.  Stop.
> > make[2]: Leaving directory
> > `/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember/src'
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/_SOFTWARE/fluxbox-0.1.12-remember'
> > make: *** [all] Error 2 
> > 
> > Another thing is that I have automake 1.5 and I had to sed the Makefiles
> > to remove automake-1.6.. later I just symlinked it, cause I thought it
> > could make the error, however without success.. still can't compile it.
> > 
> > My System
> > gcc 2.95.3
> > glibc-2.2.5
> > Slackware 8.1
> > XFree 4.2.0
> > 
> > Hope somebody could help.
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Regards
> > aLEczapKA
> > aleczapka at gmx dot net
> > http://spiritisdigital.com
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> > A. Einstein
> > 
> > 
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