From: Arnt Karlsen <arnt@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Car racing pedals in flight gear
On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:17:35 +0200, Viktor wrote in message
> > On Oct 7, 2011 8:56 PM, "Rafael Anschau" <rafael.anschau@...>
> > wrote:
> > Hi, I noticed flight pedals are not very cheap, but there are much
> > cheaper pedals that come with a driver wheel control(for car racing
> > games). Can those pedals be used in flight gear to simulate the
> > rudder ?
> > Thanks,
> > Rafael
> Sadly, no. Flight pedals are not independent like the accelerator and
> brake on a car.
..er, in some (rare?) cases they are, e.g. some canard aircraft use one
sided wing tip "brake flaps" "as rudders", "stomp one pedal to yaw that
way, stomp both to slow down."
> They pivot in the middle. When you push one in, the
> other comes out. They also have toe brakes which let you steer by
> braking the left and right main wheel independently. Maybe you could
> simulate just the toe brakes though.
> But I defnitely recommend getting proper pedals - twisting the
> joystick will never give you the same control or feel.
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Very true, "new" PC flight pedals are not cheap.
Depending on the car racing pedals the answer is maybe. You would have to modify your joystick file or create a new joystick file to use the car pedals. One shortcoming is the car pedals are not push/pull like real rudder pedals. Both pedals can be pressed at the same time. You have to train yourself to only depress one pedal at a time. Also there are no toe brakes. But still, something is better than nothing.
Another way to reduce cost is DIY.
Here is one example. "The Five Minute Yoke."
Perhaps the "5 minute yoke" could be build as "5 minute pedals?"
I think there was a video of this. But I can't find it at the moment.
Sometime ago I purchased V3 InterAct pedals at a thrift store for $1.99 and a used USB joy stick for another $1.99. I found a diagram of the USB chip in the joy stick on the internet. Using the diagram I rewired the InterAct peddles to use the USB chip.
For under $5.00 I had a working set of USB rudder pedals.
I also had to edit my joystick file to use the InterAct peddles for rudder input.
They have the same shortcomings as other car pedals. They worked just fine till I got something better.
A picture of V3 InterAct pedals from the internet.
Another way is to scrounge a used set of pedals. A broken used set is even cheaper.
I found a broken set of ProPedals and repaired them. A likely problem with broken ProPedals is an internal broken wire. The wires are very small and flex every time the pedals are moved. The repair cost is a trip the scrap wire box.
Now I have a nice set of ProPedals for not much money.