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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:39:56 +0400 batden <batden@...> said:

that contains translations for specific applications and toolsets etc. not 1 mo
per app at all (no way to know how the .desktop file maps to some specific .mo
to open). what mo file contains the translations? if what you say is true -
the .mo translations are used to GENERATe the.desktop files - then the .desktop
files should have all the translations in them. they don't.

so where is the magic .mo or set of .mo's that need to be loaded and used? and
don't tell me "every .mo in the langpack local dir needs to be loaded" as thats
just not going to happen :)

> Le lundi 11 octobre 2010 à 18:17 +0900, Carsten Haitzler a écrit :
> > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:40:17 +0400 batden <batden@...> said:
> > 
> > > Le lundi 11 octobre 2010 à 07:17 +0900, Carsten Haitzler a écrit :
> > > > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:31:21 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiurana@...>
> > > > said:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > check the .desktop files. - i looked. MOST don't contain translations.
> > > > where gnome gets its translations beats me. might be some newer fdo
> > > > standard that splits them out - dunno.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > In GNOME, Xfce... the desktop files are translated directly in the po
> > > files.
> > > 
> > > http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/DevGuidelines/Localize%20using%
> > > 20gettext%20and%20intltool
> > > 
> > > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/CorrectDesktopFiles
> > > 
> > > http://www.redhat.com/magazine/013nov05/features/freedesktop/
> > > (cf. "Easy translations")
> > > 
> > > In E, we're doing it the (very) old-fashioned way... ;)
> > 
> > beats me which po files they are :)
> > 
> 
> As you well know, .po files are compiled to produce binary .mo files.
> On Ubuntu, these .mo files are installed in (the non-standard
> location) /usr/share/locale-langpack/<langcode>/LC_MESSAGES;
> they are used to generate the .desktop files...
> 
> Details:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream/KDE/KubuntuTranslationsLifecycle
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TranslationLifecycle
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hi,

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Carsten Haitzler <raster@...> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:39:56 +0400 batden <batden@...> said:
>
> that contains translations for specific applications and toolsets etc. not 1 mo
> per app at all (no way to know how the .desktop file maps to some specific .mo
> to open). what mo file contains the translations? if what you say is true -
> the .mo translations are used to GENERATe the.desktop files - then the .desktop
> files should have all the translations in them. they don't.
>
> so where is the magic .mo or set of .mo's that need to be loaded and used? and
> don't tell me "every .mo in the langpack local dir needs to be loaded" as thats
> just not going to happen :)

In Ubuntu they're using a "X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain" key in the
.desktop file to specify the translation domain for gettext. :-) Other
distros must be using something similar.

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On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:11:46 +0300 Ulisses Furquim <ulisses@...>
said:

> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Carsten Haitzler <raster@...>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:39:56 +0400 batden <batden@...> said:
> >
> > that contains translations for specific applications and toolsets etc. not
> > 1 mo per app at all (no way to know how the .desktop file maps to some
> > specific .mo to open). what mo file contains the translations? if what you
> > say is true - the .mo translations are used to GENERATe the.desktop files -
> > then the .desktop files should have all the translations in them. they
> > don't.
> >
> > so where is the magic .mo or set of .mo's that need to be loaded and used?
> > and don't tell me "every .mo in the langpack local dir needs to be loaded"
> > as thats just not going to happen :)
> 
> In Ubuntu they're using a "X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain" key in the
> .desktop file to specify the translation domain for gettext. :-) Other
> distros must be using something similar.

but gnome-terminal.mo... doesn't exist for most locales. ffor example for
gnome-terminal. same with inkscape, or gimp... the only ones i see are for en_*
- n de, fr, es, pt, ja, ko... etc.

that mo can be sanely used for the app - but a launcher/menu having to load an
extra N .mo files (1 per app/desktop) just to get 1, 2 or 3 strings from them
for the .desktop... that seems a wonderfully extreme way to do this. and
evidence doesn't show that this is the case - at least here on 10.04


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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:52:18 +0100 haithem rahmani <haithem.rahmani@...>
said:

> Hi again,
> 
> I'm still getting the error.
> 
> I  recompiled the evas engine enabling the buffer:
> 
>  $> ls /usr/local/efl/lib/evas/modules/engines
> buffer  directfb  software_generic
> 
> 
> however I built ecore with "disable-ecore-evas-software-buffer" flag.
> 
> shall enable it ?

yes. why did you disable it? dont --enable or --disable UNLESS you know exactly
what you are doing. defaults do the right thing.

> regards.
> Haithem
> 
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler <raster@...:
> 
> > On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 06:20:34 +0100 haithem rahmani <
> > haithem.rahmani@...>
> > said:
> >
> > not dfb - buffer. directfb != fb != buffer - they are differently named for
> > reasons. you should have a buffer engine by default unless u explicitly
> > disabled it.
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > When building Webkit/EFL I'm getting the following error:
> > >
> > >  [100%] Generating efl/DefaultTheme/default.edj
> > > cd /home/rahmanih/work/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Release/WebKit &&
> > > /usr/local/bin/edje_cc -v -id
> > > /home/rahmanih/work/WebKit/WebKit/efl/DefaultTheme
> > > /home/rahmanih/work/WebKit/WebKit/efl/DefaultTheme/default.edc
> > >
> > /home/rahmanih/work/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Release/WebKit/efl/DefaultTheme/default.edj
> > > /usr/local/bin/edje_cc: Wrote       698 bytes (   1Kb) for "edje_file"
> > > header
> > > /usr/local/bin/edje_cc: Error. Cannot create buffer engine canvas for
> > image
> > > load.
> > > make[2]: *** [WebKit/efl/DefaultTheme/default.edj] Error 255
> > > make[2]: Leaving directory
> > `/home/rahmanih/work/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Release'
> > > make[1]: *** [WebKit/CMakeFiles/ewebkit.dir/all] Error 2
> > > make[1]: Leaving directory
> > `/home/rahmanih/work/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Release'
> > > make: *** [all] Error 2
> > >
> > > I checked out the efl svn version build the libs for the directfb
> > backend.
> > >
> > > any help please ?
> > >
> > > regards.
> > > Haithem.
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On 10/11/2010 11:25 PM, Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira wrote:
> GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and almost every major desktop environment on linux offer
> a way of controlling what apps should be run at the begin of every session.
> How can I make this in Enlightenment?
>

Add the app's .desktop file to ~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order file 
(create if missing).

dh

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If you click on window icon top left > more> remember > advanced you can
choose all kinds of useful stuff including start on login

2010/10/11 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira <vini.ipsmaker@...>

> GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and almost every major desktop environment on linux offer
> a way of controlling what apps should be run at the begin of every session.
> How can I make this in Enlightenment?
>
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Or use Settings -> Apps -> Startup Apps and pick your favourite ones.

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On 10/12/2010 11:43 AM, Mark Dickie wrote:
> If you click on window icon top left>  more>  remember>  advanced you can
> choose all kinds of useful stuff including start on login
>
> 2010/10/11 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira<vini.ipsmaker@...>
>
>> GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and almost every major desktop environment on linux offer
>> a way of controlling what apps should be run at the begin of every session.
>> How can I make this in Enlightenment?

Thanks

2010/10/12 P Purkayastha <ppurka@...>

> Or use Settings -> Apps -> Startup Apps and pick your favourite ones.
>
> PS: Mark, sorry for the double email to you. This is sent to the list now.
>
> On 10/12/2010 11:43 AM, Mark Dickie wrote:
> > If you click on window icon top left>  more>  remember>  advanced you can
> > choose all kinds of useful stuff including start on login
> >
> > 2010/10/11 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira<vini.ipsmaker@...>
> >
> >> GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and almost every major desktop environment on linux
> offer
> >> a way of controlling what apps should be run at the begin of every
> session.
> >> How can I make this in Enlightenment?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports
> standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1,  ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 & L3.
> Spend less time writing and  rewriting code and more time creating great
> experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb
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Instituto da Computação at Universidade Federal de Alagoas
Maceió, Alagoas, Brazil

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:15:48 +0800 Hcooh <hcoohb@...> said:

> Hello,
> In the new e17 (from svn) is it possible to bind a key to a custom script ?
> I mean, is it possible to add an action in the configuration box and then
> add the binding to a special key ?
> 
> I ask this because my problem is that the action "increase brightness" and
> "decrease brightness" does not work so I need to execute a custom script.
> 
> Thank you for your answer!

yes. under launch -> command. :)


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