On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Alan G Isaac wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, (UTC) Matt Dorn apparently wrote:
>> Do you have a method for including page numbers in your
>> citations as well? Or does your work not require it? I'm
>> working on my own workaround, but am curious about how
>> others might handle this.
> Yes I need it and currently cannot have it.
> I would like to look at what you are doing.
> I would also welcome additions to the citation proposal.
> Here is the problem for use, as I see it.
> David does not need academic citation handling,
> so reST provides only the most basic support,
> and he is unlikely to sink much energy into it.
> He may also doubt that academic paper writing
> is an intended application for reST,
> which could reinforce the problem.
for me reST is a plain textfile document, and there are
options to convert it into other representations.
but it is complete in itself. this is also an argument against
autonumbering, and it is one side of not a coin but a cube
> In this context, I am very grateful that he has
> acknowledged the need to extend the character set
> in citation references and plans to implement this.
> You take away one part of the problem if you are willing
> to do development work on citation support. At this
> point the question becomes "what will the main developers
> bless" rather than "what will the main developers
> implement". This suggests that we might try to turn
> the citation proposal into a proposal for real citation
> support and discover what parts are seen as truly
> incompatible with the reST vision.
> My personal view is that the capabilities in the LaTeX world
> of natbib provide an excellent if rather ambitious point of
> The key question, I suggest, is whether citation references
> will be enhanced to support paramters and substitution, or
> whether we will somehow rely on the existing substitution
> mechanism. My user's view is that citation references
> should really be citation references.
and what distinguishes a citation reference from other references ?
> Therefore I would like to see a mechanism for including and extracting
> formatting information.
formatting options, whatfore ? this is not really plaintextdocument,
isnt it ?
from reST-document point. i would want a section "bibliography" that
contains all citations and all their information, otherwise the
reST-document is incomplete (this is contrary to bobtex i guess).
and the writer does with it whats needed to get it in shape,
for latex this might need to write a bibtex-database and applying
the correct bibtex-formator
please excuse my ignorance, i never used bibtex or citations, but
i mangle the latex-writer and need to get some grip to it.
> For example, allow tags in citation
> references that determine the substituted text::
> .. citation:: you+me:2007:pubhere
> :tag1: You and Me, 2007
> :tag2: (You and Me, 2007)
> :p.17: You and Me (2007,p.17)
> You, M. and Y. Me,
> *Our Great Book*,
> Pub Here, Inc., 2007
> This is just quick new thought by a user, and may be