Virtual Lighttable and Darkroom

Si tu es intéressé, on est un certains nombre sur le forum
http://photolinux.freeforums.org/index.php
Comme le nom l'indique, tout ce qui a trait à la photo sous Linux est
bienvenu : Darktable, bien sûr ; mais aussi Digikam, Gimp pour les
retouches, Scribus pour les livres photos, et tout le reste.

Marie-Noëlle

Le 18 avril 2012 21:32, DELETREE Philippe <phdeletree@...> a écrit :

> Un essai de forum exclusivement francophone sur Darktable.
>
> le forum est gratuit pour moi mais je n'ai que 20 Mo
>
> Voir si cela intéresse ...
>
> Philippe Delétrée
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Mes dernières photos sont dans ma
galerie<http://www.marie-noelle-augendre.com/photos/>
.
Retrouvez-moi aussi sur mon blog <http://www.mnaugendre.com/>.
Et parcourez les Cévennes à ma façon avec Cévennes
Plurielles<http://www.cevennes-plurielles.com/>,

I reported the same issue as well...   i have the feeling it is
related to when dt get closed to use all available memory, but I may
be wrong... usually closing and reopnening dt solves the issue.

HTH
Ste

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Usul <usul@...> wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> I have noticed an annoying problem. Sometimes, if I export to file (JPG)
> I get a total black picture. Exporting the single picture again works,
> but not always. Sometimes I get the black again.
> In attachment the xmp of one of the problematic ones.
>
> Usul
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Am 18.04.2012 10:39, schrieb Usul:
> Hi everybody,
> I have noticed an annoying problem. Sometimes, if I export to file (JPG)
> I get a total black picture. Exporting the single picture again works,
> but not always. Sometimes I get the black again.
> In attachment the xmp of one of the problematic ones.
> 

Hi,

please tell us what DT version you are using.

Then start DT from a terminal with '-d dev' and post the output here.

Best wishes

Ulrich


> Usul
> 
>

I am personally running DT 1.0.x from the trunk. Same problem with
0.9.3. I will do what you suggested...

Ste

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Ulrich Pegelow
<ulrich.pegelow@...> wrote:
> Am 18.04.2012 10:39, schrieb Usul:
>> Hi everybody,
>> I have noticed an annoying problem. Sometimes, if I export to file (JPG)
>> I get a total black picture. Exporting the single picture again works,
>> but not always. Sometimes I get the black again.
>> In attachment the xmp of one of the problematic ones.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> please tell us what DT version you are using.
>
> Then start DT from a terminal with '-d dev' and post the output here.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Ulrich
>
>
>> Usul
>>
>>
>
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ivan Tarozzi <itarozzi@...> wrote:
> 1. An easy way to compare side by side two or more images. Zooming the
> grid is a way, but the frame border is too large. Also it does not
> permits to put a reference image fixed anche change only the other image

That is a missing feature. It should allow to compare two images,
whatever they are. AFAIK no-one is working on this ATM.

> 2. An easy way to duplicate image with the current post-production
> stack. This because often I set the main pp (crop, white bal, exposure,
> lens correction...) and the I start for specific post-prduction. Would
> be usefull to duplicate the stack to preserve this options.
> Now I duplicate and then copy&paste the develop queue and it works.

A right-button menu on the image to be cloned would work?

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>
>> 2. An easy way to duplicate image with the current post-production
>> stack. This because often I set the main pp (crop, white bal, exposure,
>> lens correction...) and the I start for specific post-prduction. Would
>> be usefull to duplicate the stack to preserve this options.
>> Now I duplicate and then copy&paste the develop queue and it works.
>
> A right-button menu on the image to be cloned would work?
>

though not "easy" in the way you mean it, you can make a style from
the image, duplicate it, and apply the style to the new one (then
destroy the style if you don't want it anymore)

that's a work around, but that's better than nothing

Il 18/04/2012 10:33, jeremy rosen ha scritto:
>>
>>> 2. An easy way to duplicate image with the current post-production
>>> stack. This because often I set the main pp (crop, white bal, exposure,
>>> lens correction...) and the I start for specific post-prduction. Would
>>> be usefull to duplicate the stack to preserve this options.
>>> Now I duplicate and then copy&paste the develop queue and it works.
>>
>> A right-button menu on the image to be cloned would work?
>>
> 
> though not "easy" in the way you mean it, you can make a style from
> the image, duplicate it, and apply the style to the new one (then
> destroy the style if you don't want it anymore)
> 
> that's a work around, but that's better than nothing

Sorry, but I don't understand. Why create a temporary style instead to
use the copy and paste feature in the left panel "Develop queue" ?
As workaround I found this usefull

Ivan

Den 18 april 2012 10:33 skrev jeremy rosen <jeremy.rosen@...>:
>>
>>> 2. An easy way to duplicate image with the current post-production
>>> stack. This because often I set the main pp (crop, white bal, exposure,
>>> lens correction...) and the I start for specific post-prduction. Would
>>> be usefull to duplicate the stack to preserve this options.
>>> Now I duplicate and then copy&paste the develop queue and it works.
>>
>> A right-button menu on the image to be cloned would work?
>>
>
> though not "easy" in the way you mean it, you can make a style from
> the image, duplicate it, and apply the style to the new one (then
> destroy the style if you don't want it anymore)
>
> that's a work around, but that's better than nothing
>

additional to this, when applying a style a duplicate can be create
automatically
before applying style...

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Il 18/04/2012 10:11, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo ha scritto:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ivan Tarozzi <itarozzi@...> wrote:
>> 1. An easy way to compare side by side two or more images. Zooming the
>> grid is a way, but the frame border is too large. Also it does not
>> permits to put a reference image fixed anche change only the other image
> 
> That is a missing feature. It should allow to compare two images,
> whatever they are. AFAIK no-one is working on this ATM.
[cut]

Ok, thanks. I have a question: I'm a developer but without experience in
gtk gui (I know a little qt). Do you think possible I try to develop
this feature? In your experience is a critical module for a beginner
developer? And what are rules to share branch with the devaloper team?


Ivan

>
> Ok, thanks. I have a question: I'm a developer but without experience in
> gtk gui (I know a little qt). Do you think possible I try to develop
> this feature? In your experience is a critical module for a beginner
> developer? And what are rules to share branch with the devaloper team?
>

if you did some qt, gtk shouldn't be different, look around the code
and around the net, you should find all the doc you need...

as for sharing, the most common method so far has been to post the
result of git format patch directly on the ML, some people ask for a
pull from github, but this is a less common way.

do whichever you feel the most confident with...

>
> Ivan
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Ivan Tarozzi <itarozzi@...> wrote:
> Il 18/04/2012 10:11, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo ha scritto:
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ivan Tarozzi <itarozzi@...> wrote:
>>> 1. An easy way to compare side by side two or more images. Zooming the
>>> grid is a way, but the frame border is too large. Also it does not
>>> permits to put a reference image fixed anche change only the other image
>>
>> That is a missing feature. It should allow to compare two images,
>> whatever they are. AFAIK no-one is working on this ATM.
> [cut]
>
> Ok, thanks. I have a question: I'm a developer but without experience in
> gtk gui (I know a little qt). Do you think possible I try to develop
> this feature? In your experience is a critical module for a beginner
> developer? And what are rules to share branch with the devaloper team?

I think you will need to learn some gtk  and cairo stuff, but if you
are a developer, I think you are better than me (which I am not) and I
manage to write some stuff ;-)

Regrading the branch, I keep a mirror in github of our git repo. You
can create a fork of it and push there, so if you want your branch to
be tested or even merged is as easy as pointing us to it.

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   jcsogo@...

Il 18/04/2012 10:47, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo ha scritto:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Ivan Tarozzi <itarozzi@...> wrote:
>> Il 18/04/2012 10:11, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo ha scritto:
>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ivan Tarozzi <itarozzi@...> wrote:
>>>> 1. An easy way to compare side by side two or more images. Zooming the
>>>> grid is a way, but the frame border is too large. Also it does not
>>>> permits to put a reference image fixed anche change only the other image
>>>
>>> That is a missing feature. It should allow to compare two images,
>>> whatever they are. AFAIK no-one is working on this ATM.
>> [cut]
>>
>> Ok, thanks. I have a question: I'm a developer but without experience in
>> gtk gui (I know a little qt). Do you think possible I try to develop
>> this feature? In your experience is a critical module for a beginner
>> developer? And what are rules to share branch with the devaloper team?
> 
> I think you will need to learn some gtk  and cairo stuff, but if you
> are a developer, I think you are better than me (which I am not) and I
> manage to write some stuff ;-)
> 
> Regrading the branch, I keep a mirror in github of our git repo. You
> can create a fork of it and push there, so if you want your branch to
> be tested or even merged is as easy as pointing us to it.
> 

Thanks a lot for your answer. I will try to find some tutorial and I
will look around DT code.

But a question about team decision rules... Can I start a new plugin or
a new feature  in my hown or there are guidelines to don't contrast with
main development core? Can I start a feature (for example to compare 2
images) without discuss the design with the main dev team?

I know free software permits me to do that, but I would like to work
consistently with main project and dev team. ;)

Sorry for this doubts, but is my first approach to a free software
project as developer and also my english is not so good :)

Ivan

PS
may be this is a thread for dev mailing list...

>
> Thanks a lot for your answer. I will try to find some tutorial and I
> will look around DT code.

cool

>
> But a question about team decision rules... Can I start a new plugin or
> a new feature  in my hown or there are guidelines to don't contrast with
> main development core? Can I start a feature (for example to compare 2
> images) without discuss the design with the main dev team?
>

Well, I would advise discussing it at least a little, it's not so much
because "we decide what gets in" it because we've been around for a
long time and have some knowledge about what is good or bad...

a little discussion never hurts

as for conflicting with a main dev on that area, he would already have
reacted to this thread, so you are probably fine.


> Sorry for this doubts, but is my first approach to a free software
> project as developer and also my english is not so good :)
>

don't worry, most of us are not native speakers, so we are tolerant
with incorrect grammar :P

>
> PS
> may be this is a thread for dev mailing list...
>

yes, definitely, I hadn't realized it was on -users
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:46 AM, jeremy rosen
<jeremy.rosen@...> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, thanks. I have a question: I'm a developer but without experience in
>> gtk gui (I know a little qt). Do you think possible I try to develop
>> this feature? In your experience is a critical module for a beginner
>> developer? And what are rules to share branch with the devaloper team?
>>
>
> if you did some qt, gtk shouldn't be different, look around the code
> and around the net, you should find all the doc you need...
>
> as for sharing, the most common method so far has been to post the
> result of git format patch directly on the ML, some people ask for a
> pull from github, but this is a less common way.

I am the one promoting github, and I think that this will benefit this
task, as it is one that will take a while to be implemented, and
having the branch published permits trying it easily. Later, if you
want to keep the history, the branch can be merged back. If not, you
can rebase it on top of master discarding history (with --interactive)
and produce one patch through git format-patch that can be applied
directly.

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   jcsogo@...

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Ivan Tarozzi <itarozzi@...> wrote:
> But a question about team decision rules... Can I start a new plugin or
> a new feature  in my hown or there are guidelines to don't contrast with
> main development core? Can I start a feature (for example to compare 2
> images) without discuss the design with the main dev team?
>
> I know free software permits me to do that, but I would like to work
> consistently with main project and dev team. ;)

Think about what you want to do, and how (UI wise, not the inners) and
post something to the -devel list.
I also recommend you to join us in #darktable in freenode, as you will
find quite a lot of help there...

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   jcsogo@...