I sent this last night. It was supposed to go to the group, but my
mail client only sent it back to jw
I have used J since the beginning. I worked with Peter at Symantec for
many years. Peter was always known for writing editors. It's actually
how he got the job with Symantec in the first place. When Peter learned
how to program in Java, it seemed fitting that his first java project
should be an editor and J was born. I have used J since it's first
incarnation and I use it still every single day. I use it for coding
just about everything from C to XML.
It's funny now to see people wonder if J has any use with all the
interest in the lisp interpreter. If I remember correctly the lisp
interpreter project started out to be the macro language for J only.
Through popular demand it became its own standalone entity.
So, if anyone asks if the J project should be continued, I would give an
emphatic "yes" to that question. The thing works so well as to not even
need any updates for several years, but it should be available should
someone want to add more features or functionality.
Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote:
> (I sent this message to the list yesterday, but I never saw it get through.
> I hope this will not be a dup)
> Recently there's been a question on the developers mailinglist whether
> there's still any interest in J "as in the general purpose text and code
> editor" (maybe it might've been a good idea to have sent that question to
> the armedbear-j-users list too?).
> Anyway, I have the feeling J-as-in-the-editor isn't really used anymore by
> anyone. Or is it? Noone showed any particular interest in J, right?
> I happend to be a long time user of J (I think I started using J in 2000,
> maybe even 1999). During that period, I sent a few minor patches, mostly
> related to the Python-mode (software developement in Python is what I do
> for a living). Since the latest official release (was it 2004, maybe
> 2005?) there hasn't been any serious development on J anymore if I'm not
> I have a bit of a sentimental feeling about this: J has really grown on me
> in all these years (especially the XML mode with it oh-so easy way of
> inserting XML elements, and the quick hack in the Python-mode to enable
> so-called "doctest mode"), but I also think any codebase without
> active maintenance or userbase is bound to render obsolete.
> So, basically, is J dead? Are there any users still out there? Or have
> people migrated away - like I'm currently doing, dusting of my .emacs
> file? Although my Java-skills are rusty to say the least, maybe I could
> chip a little maintenance-time when there're more people to collaborate
> If not, then let me take this opportunity to say a sincere and whole
> hearted "Thank You Peter" for the having developed J, an editor that
> deserves to have had a much, much bigger audience.
> Kind regards,
> Jan-Wijbrand Kolman
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